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#1 Capitalism Is An Abject Failure Thread
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...ld-cars-go-die
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The general Liberal/Libertarian White Nationalist thesis is that central power exercised by whites would be almost as dangerous as government control by the Jews. But then...couldn't we apply this to the power wielded by big capital? Without the Judeo-capitalist millions and billions invested into the queer agenda, it simply would not exist.
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I don´t know if it´s logical to dismiss capitalism only because an specific car dealer hasn´t sold too many cars, but nobody can deny that capitalism has allowed the western civilization to flourish greatly, air travel, washing machines, tons of electrical devices, or the fact that I could go to a restaurant and have a meal that would make kings of the past jealous. This is all possible because of capitalism.
The problems we have today are simple, we have far too many collectivist and leftist people who hold too much power in governments, and they are the root of our problems, along with the fact of the prostitution of the U.S dollar by the FED, banks, etc, don´t contribute to our prosperity, and they violate the fundamental principle of capitalism, which is business without someone getting screwed. We need currencies backed by tangible assets, maybe oil or natural gas. I would suggest to back currencies on work, like it was tried on Germany before WWII, all the wealth of a nation backed and sustained on productivity along with a free market economy. P.D: English is my second language. |
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It doesn't do any good to discuss things at the level of disputed abstractions, which fits 'capitalism,' a term as contrarily used as socialism these days.
Better to talk of markets. Markets work. Should all things be subject to markets? No. Should everyday matters be subject to them? Yes. |
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Nice way to put a massive waste of steel, rubber, and [specialized] labor hours. On top of that, these auto manufacturers would rather have these perfectly good cars rot in a parking lot over selling them at more affordable prices, because this would effect their artificially inflated "market value" of the car.
Market allocation means raw materials shift based on necessity and demand. In capitalism, they are allocated in abstract and wasteful ways. Thousands of tons of materials sitting in a massive car-dump = tons of materials not going towards infrastructure, upgrades, or other social and private necessities. These cars weren't produced based on necessity. They weren't produced based on consumer demand. So why the fuck were they produced? And better yet, since they're already here, doesn't it make more sense to sell them at a discount, to at least break even? Just another mystery of the market. But it's not so mysterious. Many big capitalists would rather burn down their factory over paying their workers better wages or selling their products at reasonable prices. Capitalism is a wasteful system, both materially, time, and creativity wise. When Soviet planners would over produce one material good and under produce another, Austrian school kikes jumped all over it. But what answer do they have when this happens in capitalism? Quote:
The immediate access to automobiles in modern capitalist societies are a product of easy credit and jewsury not actual buying power, which inevitably causes long term consequences. In other words, the average person being able to buy a car immediately is a Jewish created illusion and a carrot on a stick that will lead you straight into debt-interest slavery. If we were to eliminate usury-parasitism and institute responsible spending, it would take 10-15 years for the average American to save up to buy a car, and lord knows how much longer to buy a home.
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Joe Smith starts the day early, having set his alarm clock (made in China), for 600 A.M.
While his coffee pot (made in China) is perking, he puts his blow dryer (made in Taiwan) to work and shaves with his electric razor (made in China). He puts on a dress shirt (made in Taiwan), his designer jeans (made in Singapore), and a pair of tennis shoes (made in Korea). After cooking up some breakfast in his new electric skillet (made in Philippines), he sits down to figure out on his calculator (made in Mexico), how much he can spend today. After setting his watch (made in Switzerland) to the radio (made in China), he goes out, gets in his car (made in Germany) and goes looking - as he has been for months - for a good paying American job. At the end of another discouraging and fruitless day, Joe decides to relax for a while. He puts on a pair of sandals (made in China), pours himself a glass of wine (made in France), and turns on his TV (made in Japan)... ... and ponders again why he can't find a good paying American job. I actually find this satire fun and telling at same time. I agree that there should be incentives for american corporations and business to hire and produce in America, tax reductions and other benefits. I really hope you can find the way out for all the troubles that have arise because of the excessive greed of some bankers and politicians. |
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For example, I think we can all objectively agree that in spite of Jewish political control and propaganda present in both public and private sector, the quality of entertainment on the BBC or PBS is far superior to the dogshit you see on Fox or ABC. With that said, HBO also produces pretty good entertainment albeit Jewy and subversive, so I would support both private and public sector competition in this regard. The issue of gargantuan private sector waste should be debated by plebiscites or citizen councils. Companies that allocate 100 million dollars to make The Adventures Of Pluto Nash should be scrutinized beyond the box office and punished via tax penalties, in my view. But this should be decided by citizen referendums, not the central government on its own.
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Even if I were to get on this level, your implications still fail. If we compared oranges to oranges, North Korea had a higher standard of living, faster recovery from the war, and greater economic growth than South Korea until the 1980's, even with the United States giving generous economic subsidies to the latter . I would like to see what position South Korea would be in today if its biggest trading partners like America, the EU, and Japan suddenly embargoed them or collapsed, like happened to North Korea after the fall of the USSR and liberalization of China.
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Are you going to say these made in China products you seem to love, are of better quality or even that much cheaper? If you support globalization, why are you here? While some of these products are cheaper, superficially, they aren't in the long-run. Comparing Western, white made products from the past to the made in China trash of today is like comparing a Rolex to those toy watches you used to get with a burger king happy meal. The falling quality of consumer products is caused by capitalist greed, and the only way to correct this is via state intervention that would prevent them from doing this, or make outsourcing very expensive. Quality over quantity is an Aryan concept, while the opposite is a ghetto Jew one. Most whites, if given a choice, would rather invest in a more expensive refrigerator that will last them 50 years, over flimsy Taiwanese junk that gives you problems after 5. I can tell you right now from my Dr Martens boots. The price of DM's hasn't changed much (probably gone up), yet the quality has plummeted since they moved their production facilities to China. The only thing capitalist globalization does is charge you more for inferior quality.
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I posted an analogy between the lack of american made products you find in your daily life and how it affects the average working or middle class in america. It was a satire.
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Regulated Capitalism can work, if its done in the correct way and for the right reasons. But most people would consider such a system "Socialism". The popular belief is anything other than free market globalism = Socialism.
According to the same logic, suggesting we should make American and buy American, and provide a platform where American products remain the most competitive in our own country would be "Socialism". Socialism isn't against supply and demand, but it needs to be within a certain box to where things don't get completely out of hand. Things happening such as companies teaming together to artificially inflate the prices of their products by collectively manipulating the supply, etc. We know for a fact this is being done with gas prices. This is why someone needs to be the referee. |
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Without government encouraging debt the prices of homes and education would fall. Closing the borders would put further downward pressure on housing prices. |
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An economist might say we know there are not a large number of cars left to rot, because if a company makes many cars that no-one buys, that company will go bust. The only thing that might enable them to make unwanted cars and not go bust is if they are bailed out by the government (as were Ford and GM), but that would be edging into communism. Go figure. BTW, is the largest port in the UK for car imports and exports, total 400,000 cars per year (ref) - what you see in the picture above is probably the imports and exports for a week. . Last edited by Gibson; May 20th, 2014 at 12:20 PM. |
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