Letter from Bill White + Ongoing Trial Coverage (12/09 forward)

[Kamerad Q]

Originally Posted by Donald E. Pauly

Pravda Bill provoked fate but has at least been partially vindicated. I failed to follow developments in this case.
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http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/284000

Bill White freed, going to Maryland for now

{My comments in prentices.}

Bill White freed, going to Maryland for now

{Jews are hopeful they can incarcerate him under color of law again.}

Bill White, who led a now-defunct hate group, seems to have little left in Roanoke.
Laurence Hammack

{Bill White led disenfranchised White people to self-determination and enlightened self-interest.}

Free after more than two years in prison, William A. White will not be coming home to Roanoke, where he built a real estate business and a neo-Nazi organization before falling victim to his own hateful words. White plans to live with his parents in Maryland -- at least for the time being, his attorney said Wednesday. After a judge's decision to throw out a jury verdict that would have subjected him to more prison time, White was released about 11 a.m. Wednesday from the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Chicago.

{Bill White is a victim of Jewish hate operating under color of law because his "words" were in opposition to Jewish tyranny.}

The leader of a now-defunct hate group, White has spent two and a half years locked up on charges of threatening, intimidating and encouraging violence against blacks, Jews and others he believed worthy of a white supremacist's wrath. White seems to have little to return to in Roanoke.

{Bill White, leader of a White liberation group fell victim to the wrath of Jewish supremacists, including, but not limited to; threatening, intimidation, and finally persecution under color of law. In addition, propaganda corporations operating under the control of Jewish supremacists defamed Bill White by projecting their own attributes onto the target of their odium.}

The American National Socialist Workers Party, a neo-Nazi group he founded, is no more, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups. And the rental home business that White ran in the West End neighborhood has fallen victim to bankruptcy.

{Jewish supremacists boast of finically ruining Bill White, so as to intimidate White people from seeking redress of grievances.}

Still, White will have to come to Roanoke at least temporarily to visit probation officers as part of his three years of supervised release after his incarceration. "At some point, he will be arriving in Roanoke, it appears," said Mike Price, a senior probation officer who is responsible for supervising the 33-year-old. It's possible that White could ask that his probation be transferred to Maryland, where he will be living with his parents in their suburban Montgomery County home. Price declined to say if such a request has been made.

Nishay Sanan, a Chicago lawyer who represented White on his most recent charges, said his client already is making plans to meet with probation officials in Maryland.

White -- once described as one of the loudest and most obnoxious neo-Nazi leaders in America by the Southern Poverty Law Center -- walked free Wednesday on the orders of U.S. District Judge Lynn Adelman. His mother and wife were waiting to take him back to Maryland, Sanan said.

{The Southern Poverty Law Center is a Jewish supremacist organization, and a agent of a hostile foreign government that uses Black people as a cover for domestic operations finds Bill White's outspoken opposition too effective.}

The previous day, Adelman ruled that a Chicago jury was wrong when it convicted White in January of using his website to encourage violence against the foreman of a jury that convicted a fellow white supremacist years ago.

White's behavior in that case mirrored his actions in many others: He publicized his target's home address and telephone numbers, injected some inflammatory rhetoric meant to appeal to his racist website's followers, but never made a direct threat against the juror.

{Bill White exposed Jewish supremacist's jury tampering which clearly interfered with the accused receiving a fair trial by an impartial jury. He made his findings public, so that the merits of his investigation could be verified by all concerned, and encouraged his readership to vocalize their opposition to this miscarriage of justice.}

In fighting the Chicago charge and seven similar ones in Roanoke, White sought protection from the First Amendment. More often than not, his defense worked. But in the end, White's organization fell apart after he was sent to prison on the three charges for which a Roanoke jury ruled his actions crossed the line between free speech and criminal activity.

{The jury was deliberately miss-instructed as to the points of law in question, which is why the appellate court dismissed the charges.}

Now that he's out, White must refrain from using one of his favorite weapons.
As a condition of his probation, White is forbidden from participating in "any Internet related business or hobby involving a website, and the posting of any information on any website."

{Bill White's opinions are characterized as "weapons" as a rationalization for coerced suppression.}

Brenda Hale, who White once deemed "a n----- in need of lynching" for her vigilance against him as president of the Roanoke chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said she expects White to eventually go back to his old ways.

{Brenda Hale, the chapter president of a racist organization founded, and beholden to Jewish supremacy takes credit for her part as victim of Bill White's "weapons"}

Yet in a letter to The Roanoke Times, written while he was in prison, White said he planned to withdraw from the white supremacy movement and keep his website dark upon his release. "I do not intend to recant my views," he wrote, "even if I will quiet them."

{Has Bill White ever said he was part of a "white supremacy movement"? If not, then one of the many "weapons" of the Roanoke Times is false reporting in the manipulation of its readerships' opinion in favor of the Jewish supremacy establishment.}

[Gary Peiper]

As badly as he treated many people, and however kooky he got with the whole costume thing (amongst other antics), I still dearly miss the writings of Bill White, he wrote about NS better than any other writer out there at the moment.

[8Man]

[Yes, I know, when he was out and about prior to 2008, Bill White and I weren’t exactly on one another’s Christmas card list. But NO ONE deserves what was done to Bill White, and regardless of anyone’s personal opinion of this man, he is a genuine racial martyr who has suffered torture and persecution at the hand of the tyrant. – HAC]

My Story by Bill White

In 2008, I was arrested because a federal informant—Harold Turner—claimed, falsely, that I was planning to assassinate President Barack Obama by detonating a truck bomb at the Poff Federal Building in Roanoke, Va. I was never charged with this crime, however. Instead, I was charged with a series of free speech violations for publishing a website and magazine critical of the government. It took me 83 days to prove to the satisfaction of the feds that there was no assassination plot; it took them two and a half years to release me, acquitted. If they had a choice, I would still be in prison today.

When I was arrested for speech offenses, I assumed I would receive bond. No one had ever been hurt, and the organization I was involved in, the American National Socialist Worker’s Party, had never been involved in violence. But, two days after my arrest, when I attended a detention hearing, I was ruled dangerous, based solely on my dangerous political views.

After my detention, I was tortured by the Obama government. Initially, I was held in a small room under a bright light 24 long hours a day and subjected to sleep deprivation. I was denied showers, a shave, even a toothbrush, and it was in this condition—dirty and half dead from lack of sleep—that I was repeatedly taken to the courts and paraded before the news cameras.

I was held in a cell with no heat in the 20-below Chicago winter. At one point I was placed in a cell that was then flooded with human feces. The U.S. marshals wanted to know, “Where was the bomb?” I had no idea what they were talking about, and didn’t until almost a year later, when Turner was put on trial for, in part, lying about the “truck bomb plot.”

I later learned the government had been following me since 1996. When I was a teenager, someone—the police still don’t know who—firebombed the home of a police officer. There were no suspects, but a detective told the FBI that he couldn’t imagine anyone who would have a problem with the police except a little anarchist group I was involved in. Based upon this, and despite no evidence linking me to any crime, I was indexed by the FBI as a “domestic terrorist.”

In 2007, the American National Socialist Workers Party began publishing a magazine with a small distribution. Even so, big newspapers such as The New York Times began covering our efforts, and in February 2007, the FBI sought and obtained approval to open a “terrorism enterprise investigation” into our activities. A special prosecution team was set up within the Department of Justice for the sole purpose of prosecuting us, and, eventually, me, “at all costs.”

As an “act of violence,” necessary for opening a “terrorism enterprise investigation,” the 1996 statement that I was part of a group suspected in an arson was used.

Though the government determined there was no bomb, I was in and out of “supermax” for the next two-and-a-half years. The conditions were brutal. After one seven-month stretch, the ligaments in my knees atrophied
until I couldn’t walk for two weeks.

The government knew I was innocent but didn’t want to admit they’d made a mistake. They pressured witnesses to lie to grand juries. Two were eventually convicted of that—Turner and another man, Timothy Bland, who used his FBI witness stipend to come to where I lived and try to find and murder my wife and daughter.

By April 2010, the Obama administration knew I was innocent, but they had other uses for me. They wanted me to testify to a “neo-nazi domestic terrorist conspiracy” and perjure myself before a grand jury and Congress, implicating their political enemies. I refused and was returned to supermax.

In January 2011, I was again approached and told that, if I would “cooperate,” I would be immediately released—all charges would be dropped and my record cleared. In April 2011, thankfully, I was acquitted of my fifth federal criminal case, and released regardless.

This is what communism looks like in the United States. I was innocent and eventually acquitted. I was not involved in any plot to bomb any federal building or assassinate Obama.

But, I was arrested, detained, tortured and held in solitary confinement because I refused to lie for the benefit of the federal government and falsely accuse myself and others of crimes.

[Bill White has returned to Virginia on his release and is attempting to pick up the pieces of his shattered life. Good luck, Bill. Stay strong and keep it real, man.]

.. from HAC's email list

[Hadding]

"I was never charged with this crime, however. Instead, I was charged with a series of free speech violations for publishing a website and magazine critical of the government. It took me 83 days to prove to the satisfaction of the feds that there was no assassination plot...."

This is gibberish. There is no point in trying to prove to police interrogators that you weren't involved in an assassination plot when no such charge has been filed.

If they have the evidence, they will make the charge. If they hint at an accusation without charging you, they don't have the evidence but they hope that you will reveal something in your responses.

If Bill White really was babbling like that, his attorney should have told him to shut up.

[Donald E. Pauly]

Originally Posted by Hadding

"I was never charged with this crime, however. Instead, I was charged with a series of free speech violations for publishing a website and magazine critical of the government. It took me 83 days to prove to the satisfaction of the feds that there was no assassination plot...."

This is gibberish. There is no point in trying to prove that you weren't involved in an assassination plot when no such charge has been filed. If Bill White really was babbling like that, his attorney should have told him to shut up.

If they have the evidence, they will make the charge. If they hint at an accusation without charging you, they don't have the evidence and they are fishing for some.

Hadding's posts are not to be dismissed out of hand and Pravda Bill always did have a tendency to exagerate. I am glad to see that Pravda Bill has some fight left in him. My understanding that he still has some convictions of some kind.

[Donald E. Pauly]

The previous letter supposedly from Pravda Bill was posted thru the intervention of Tubbs without a link. It is indeed genuine from http://www.americanfreepress.net/htm...tured_270.html . Tubbs has quite a well deserved reputation for forgery and is NEVER to be trusted. OTOH, his stuff is SOMETIMES worth reading as long as you do so with a grain of salt.

[Donald E. Pauly]

Originally Posted by Gary Peiper

As badly as he treated many people, and however kooky he got with the whole costume thing (amongst other antics), I still dearly miss the writings of Bill White, he wrote about NS better than any other writer out there at the moment.

I know more about National Socialist Economics than 99% of White Nationalists and Pravda Bill leaves me in the dust on the subject. We have got to get him to tame his approach this time. Headlines like "Kill This Nigger" do not win friends and influence people.

[8Man]

Originally Posted by Donald E. Pauly

I know more about National Socialist Economics than 99% of White Nationalists and Pravda Bill leaves me in the dust on the subject. We have got to get him to tame his approach this time. Headlines like "Kill This Nigger" do not win friends and influence people.

.. if we're going to quote Bill White, let's make it accurate. Leaving the " ? " off is what the prosecution would do when presenting their case to the jury. I think you'd agree there's a substantial difference between making an assertion and asking a question.

[8Man]

Louis Beam commented via email today:

Thanks for publishing this story. I think it quite important for your readers and everyone else as well. Few people understand how the government works when they come for you. White has told us in brief words that cut to the chase how one can expect to be treated and attempts made to compromise your integrity. Mr. White stood firm in his beliefs and refused offers to lie for the government. People do not understand how big a decision that is to stand firm when you are locked in solitary, nothing before you but twenty more years or so of prison and everything in your life down a federal rat whole, and no apparent relief in site. This man has proven himself committed to his beliefs and should be honoured for that. I know nothing about him other than this short story. But I tell you few could fill his boots in modern day America.

I speak from experience...

LB

(.. shouldn't have to state it, but the above quote is not a fabrication from HAC.)

[Hadding]

"keep it real, man."

Funny that HAC uses this kind of language. Too much daytime TV maybe.

[Donald E. Pauly]

Originally Posted by 8Man

.. if we're going to quote Bill White, let's make it accurate. Leaving the " ? " off is what the prosecution would do when presenting their case to the jury. I think you'd agree there's a substantial difference between making an assertion and asking a question.

I didn't know about the question mark but that means little. My point is still valid.

[Hadding]

Originally Posted by 8Man

Louis Beam commented via email today:


(.. shouldn't have to state it, but the above quote is not a fabrication from HAC.)

That's a comment sent via email from Louis Beam to whom? To you?

I found another alleged letter from Louis Beam to Harold Covington, which was posted on VNN Forum in 2007 and has been reposted in other places by Covington. It starts off with this howler:

Originally Posted by allegedly Louis Beam

You are honest about yourself, about Glenn, and about the movement. So far as I can tell about you, honesty is your strong point and should be your moral authority.

Do you think that's authentic too? To say that honesty is Covington's strong point is completely over the top. Even Covington's supporters wouldn't say that. It makes Louis Beam look like a fool.

I should make a compilation of Covington's defenders admitting that he's a liar. Most of them that I've encountered admitted it.

[Roy]

Originally Posted by Donald E. Pauly

I didn't know about the question mark but that means little. My point is still valid.

You didn't know about the question mark? Look harder, you will see it. Your inability to spot the obvious at least partially explains your usual level of sloppiness when commenting on a story.

[confederate]

any corroboration of hal turner's lying?

[Donald E. Pauly]

Originally Posted by Roy

You didn't know about the question mark? Look harder, you will see it. Your inability to spot the obvious at least partially explains your usual level of sloppiness when commenting on a story.

Nitpicking over the question mark obscures the real issue. I hadn't seen that magazine cover in several years. The point is that it didn't win friends and influence people. Tempting fate is one thing, provoking it is another matter altogether. Even if you win in Federal court, you really have lost because of all the time and money that you spent. Because of Pravda Bill's arrest, that otherwise fine magazine has gone defunct. A little more wisdom in propaganda matters would have kept him out of trouble and won White converts.

[OTPTT]

Originally Posted by confederate

any corroboration of hal turner's lying?

Is his admission of being an FBI informant and paid some $100,000 not evidence enough regarding Turner?

[Hadding]

Originally Posted by OTPTT

Is his admission of being an FBI informant and paid some $100,000 not evidence enough regarding Turner?

The views that Hal Turner expressed on his show were for the most part his real views. You can tell that by listening to him in shows prior to 2004, which was when he went on the FBI's payroll.

The frequent reference to illegal violence was the fake part. That had the purpose of drawing out weakminded people to confide to Hal Turner any illegal plans that they might have.

[VikingWarrior]

Bill White on an old Free Talk Live show talking about usury.

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/d...2_12_07_p3.mp3

[Alex Linder]

got a letter from BW, will be posting later today

[Alex Linder]

[letter from Bill White in the mail today, handwritten from jail]

SEPTEMBER 20, 2012

Hello Alex:

Long time, no talk. A friend told me this recent Roanoke Times article was posted on your website, and I wanted to correct it. There were seeral errors, but the most important was that I had "attempted to abandon the beliefs that led to my prosecution." This is incorrect. What I stated was I had "attempted to abandon the behaviors that led to my prosecution. In my view, those behaviors included in engaging in peaceful and public political protest and in participating in an open and free debate, rather than recognizing that all political dissent in the United States is inherently criminal. I omitted that detailed analysis.

What I apologized for was leaving the country -- and why not? I was clearly guilty, and it was a morally neutral act. There were a lot of truths about why I left -- such as that I narrowly avoided an intense effort to frame me for crimes the government is hushing up (because it committed) -- that were not mentioned. In my opinion the government dropped the "internet" allegations because the evidence indicates their own agents commmitted them -- and others. I really don't know the full extent of what happened, but I understand it was pretty bad.

At any rate, the 72 months the government wanted was dropped to 10, and I will be released between Dec 31 and Apr 7 -- there is a debate going on. I am trying to plea to the resentencing right now but the government may not be willing to plea. I offered to plea to 12-15 months in June, and they refused that, too.

I'm told the Bill White Trial Blog will post my actual remarks.

While in prison I've been working on some projects. One, I have designed and mostly coded (on paper) a new website which will begin reprinting racialist literature on demand -- classic books and the like. Willis Carto's faily of companies is backing this project. Two, the Amerian Free Press will be publishing my Prison Diaries from 2008 - 2011 as a 36-week serial, now I am no longer under an order not to publish on the internet. Three, I have two books about to go to press. One, Northern Traditions II, is at the printer, but is held up by printing issues. The technical issues should be worked out this month. The second, Tradition of the Mother, which discusses the civilization of the Great Mother in Crete and Southern Anatolia [end page one]

and its impact on Hebrew and Aryan civilization. My first publisher, TBR Books, transferred this to Numen Books, but Numen was recently forced to drop it under threats -- though Numen told me "this is a Traditionalist classic," it is apparently "too racial" to publish. the book is now being transferred to Poison Pen Press, which should release it in October.

I am also researching a book, tentatively titled Serpent's Blood, on the Merovingian bloodline, European occultism -- introduced into France through the Medicis, and the Democratic revolutions in Britain and France, from the 16th to the 18th centuries. I hope to have a manuscript by April.

I hope you are recovering from your digestive problems -- I know things were looking up in April -- and you've been able to realize your plans.

If anyone on VNN is inclined to help me recover from this latest imprisonment, let them know the following:

1) My address is:

William A. White #20040199844 Unit 25-07
Roanoke City Jail
324 Campbell Ave, SW
Roanoke, VA 24016

I found out this morning that the girl trusted with my PO Box in Roanoke closed it -- an unfortunate mistake. I will be moving in about five weeks, probably to FCI Petersburg, but I'm in the City Jail for now.

2) Buy my books. Centuries of Revolution is out now, available from TBR Books or Amazon.com . The Barnes Review, BTW, is looking for someone to write a 500-1000 word review of Centuries, and will pay $200 if they accept one. Email [email protected] .

Hope you and all your readers are well.

--BILL WHITE