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View Poll Results: Do you think Britain should join in the airstrikes?
Yes - any excuse to declare war on a non-European nation 1 4.76%
Yes, the Islamic State is a threat 1 4.76%
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Old August 14th, 2014 #81
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Over 100 British imams have come together to emphasize the importance of unity in the UK and to decree ISIS as an illegitimate, vicious group who do not represent Islam in any way.

“We are Muslims united against ISIS, against terrorism, against atrocity, against pain and suffering.”





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Post Islamic State militants could grow strong enough to target people on the streets of Britain unless action is taken, David Cameron has warned.



An IS video purports to show Reyaad Khan (c) and Nasser Muthana (r) from Cardiff as two of an estimated 400 Britons fighting with the group

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Islamic State militants could grow strong enough to target people on the streets of Britain unless action is taken, David Cameron has warned.

The PM, writing in the Sunday Telegraph, said a "humanitarian response" to IS was not enough and a "firm security response" was needed.

It comes as Church leaders expressed concern that the UK had no "coherent" approach to tackling Islamic extremism.

IS has seized large parts of northern Iraq and Syria over the summer.

There are also continuing reports of massacres of non-Muslims by the extreme Sunni group, which is seeking to build a new Islamic state spanning Iraq and Syria.

Kurdish forces, supported by US air strikes, said they had recaptured Mosul dam from IS fighters in northern Iraq on Sunday. The Pentagon said it had destroyed or damaged 19 IS vehicles and a checkpoint near the dam.

Analysis

By Robin Brant, BBC political correspondent

The language is very strong - "a battle against a poisonous ideology" - and the warning is stark - "a terrorist state on the shores of the Mediterranean" - as the prime minister seeks to make the case for Britain returning to Iraq.

After a week that has seen UK military aircraft drop humanitarian aid, David Cameron makes it clear that alone is not enough to defeat IS. He talks repeatedly about Britain using its "military prowess" and military action, alongside diplomacy, to defeat the group.

The talk is tough, but Downing Street insists this is not an escalation. The Ministry of Defence has been reminding people that the UK has played no role in supporting the latest round of US air strikes on IS targets across northern Iraq.

The prime minister's message is as much about home as well as abroad. People walking around with an Islamic State flag "will be arrested", he says. That is a nod to the growing concern about Britons who have gone to fight jihad, in Syria or Iraq, returning home with the intention of carrying on the struggle.

'Terrorist state'

"True security will only be achieved if we use all our resources - aid, diplomacy, our military prowess - to help bring about a more stable world," Mr Cameron said.

"If we do not act to stem the onslaught of this exceptionally dangerous terrorist movement, it will only grow stronger until it can target us on the streets of Britain."

He warned that if IS was able to "carve out its so-called caliphate", the UK would be "facing a terrorist state on the shores of the Mediterranean and bordering a Nato member".

The UK has made aid drops to people stranded in northern Iraq but the prime minister warned a "broader political, diplomatic and security response" was needed, in addition to humanitarian action.

"We need a firm security response, whether that is military action to go after the terrorists, international co-operation on intelligence and counter-terrorism or uncompromising action against terrorists at home," he wrote.

In Britain, the prime minister suggested, anyone "walking around with Isil flags or trying to recruit people to their terrorist cause" should be arrested.

Mr Cameron also made clear that he did not see this as a "war on terror" but as "a battle between Islam on the one hand and extremists who want to abuse Islam on the other".

'Moral obligation'

Speaking on Radio 5 live, communities minister Stephen Williams said any British citizen encouraging people to join IS should face "the full force of the law".

The Yazidis are among the non-Muslims being targeted by IS

Mr Cameron's remarks come as the Bishop of Leeds warned "many" senior clergy in the Church of England were seriously concerned about Britain's approach to the handling of the Iraq crisis.

The Right Rev Nicholas Baines has written to Mr Cameron asking about the government's overall strategy in response to the humanitarian situation and to IS.

"Behind this question is the serious concern that we do not seem to have a coherent or comprehensive approach to Islamist extremism as it is developing across the globe," he wrote, in a letter published on his website and backed by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

He criticised an "increasing silence" about the plight of tens of thousands of persecuted Christians in Iraq, and questioned whether they would be offered asylum in the UK.

Speaking to Radio 4's Sunday programme, the Bishop of Manchester, the Right Rev David Walker, said the government had a "moral obligation that it is repeatedly failing to rise to".

Shadow foreign secretary Douglas Alexander said the letter from Church leaders had raised "serious questions" about the government's approach to the Middle East and the plight of Christians facing persecution in Iraq and it was "right that [Mr Cameron] now responded".

"The UK government rightly took steps to help avert humanitarian catastrophe in Iraq and Labour has welcomed decisions to now offer support to the Kurdistan regional government and assist Kurdish forces with technical and logistical military equipment.

"But alongside steps to support the Kurdish forces, the UK must now work to engage regional partners to help build a more inclusive and stable government in Iraq.

"That regional approach must focus on supporting and stabilising Jordan, which now shares a border with the Isis-held areas, as well as bringing countries like Turkey into efforts to secure regional stabilisation," he said.

'Plotting attacks'

Former Liberal Democrat leader Lord Ashdown told the BBC he believed Mr Cameron's comments were "ill-judged".

"What happens domestically, that's important, but we ought to be creating some kind of strategic policy about curtailing the defining of a widening war, which is much more difficult and important," he said.

He said the PM was also "ill-judged" to talk about defending "our values".

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...arning-US.html: Mother of slaughtered American calls on Islamist group to cease killing and pays tribute to her 'extraordinary son'

Photojournalist James Wright Foley has been beheaded by ISIS forces
Foley has been missing since Thanksgiving 2012 while working in Syria
ISIS posted extremely graphic video 'A Message to America' to social media
Foley speaks to camera before his death and labels the U.S. his killers
Apparently coerced by his captors into speaking against his country
Masked and robed executioner speaks English in apparent London accent
British Foreign Secretary today said 'appalling' video appeared to be genuine
After the execution of Foley, the ISIS member says that missing American journalist Steven Joel Sotloff will be killed next
Man identified as Sotloff in caption is then paraded in front of the camera
News comes day after ISIS threatened Americans over Mosul Dam airstrikes
Warned 'we will drown all you in blood' as U.S. helped Kurds recapture dam


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This is incredible, but also revealing. I had the BBC news channel on in the background and was half-listening to it while doing other things. They had a special programme dealing with ISIS and the so-called Caliphate. This part of the programme they had set up as a discussion with various invited Muslims. As the discussion continued, I realised, to my incredulity, that the nutter on the left was actually expressing support for ISIS and saying how much Muslims around the world admired them. At that point I scrambled for the remote control and started recording. The video above shows what followed, so the start is missing. Still, you can clearly see what an absolute wackjob the guy is.

Yet this is who the BBC allows on to expound his point of view. Would they allow on an "Islamophobe" to explain why Islam is evil? No. Would they allow on a "racist" to explain why third-world immigration is bad? No. Would they allow on an "antisemite" to explain how Jews undermine European culture and civilisation? No. But a radical jihadist nutter is just fine.

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http://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/...n-Jihadis.html British face biggest threats since IRA campaign from British-born Jihadis The news that British Prime Minister David Cameron has cut short his vacation after the video of an alleged British subject beheading Irish American journalist James Foley became public is certainly dramatic.

Britain suddenly finds itself with an 'enemy within' – the almost 500 citizens who have left the UK to fight for a caliphate or an Islamic world order.

The beheader of James Foley was clearly one of those, speaking in an obvious London accent. Experts say the British fighters are among the most extreme.
 
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...lled-John.html British' jihadist who beheaded journalist is Londoner called John
An international manhunt is under way to identify the British militant who beheaded American journalist James Foley, with sources suggesting he is a London-born fanatic called John
An IS militant with a man purported to be US journalist Steven Sotloff, in a still from the group's video
An IS militant with a man purported to be US journalist Steven Sotloff, in a still from the group's video

By Gordon Rayner, and Martin Evans

10:04PM BST 20 Aug 2014

• Latest developments following beheading of James Foley

The jihadist who beheaded the American journalist James Foley is believed to be British born militant from London who calls himself John, it can be revealed.

Intelligence agents in the UK and United States are urgently looking into reports that the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isil) fighter, whose brutal actions shocked the world, is the ringleader of group of British jihadists who have specialised in hostage taking.

Based in the Isil stronghold of Raqqa in Syria, ‘John’, is described as a well-educated, intelligent, but highly committed member of the extremist terror group.

Operating closely with two other British born militants, the group have been dubbed ‘The Beatles’, by fellow jihadists because of their nationality.
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Further down we take a look at the profile of some of the Britons who have travelled to Syria and Iraq to take up arms

Experts warned that British extremists fighting across Iraq and Syria were among the most “vicious and callous” killers in the region.

Shiraz Maher, of the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation at King’s College, London, said the more than 500 Britons known to have travelled to Syria and Iraq have become more “brazen” and “arrogant” in recent months.

The beheading of Mr Foley at the hands of a British jihadist suggests militants from the UK are no longer merely foot soldiers within Isil, but have worked their way up to senior positions within the organisation.

Another Briton, Waheed Majeed, carried out a suicide bombing in Syria earlier this year.

Mr Maher also warned that their bloodthirstiness meant they would pose a “very real threat” in the UK if they returned here battle-hardened from waging “jihad”.

British police have the names of hundreds of extremists who are known to be fighting with the Isil and other insurgent groups.

Some have boasted on Twitter and Facebook about their involvement, and the security services were last night examining pictures of known fighters as part of the process of identifying Mr Foley’s killer. They include boys and girls as young as 16, a medical student and a Primark shop assistant.

Around half of the 500 who have travelled to the Middle East since Syria’s civil war began three years ago have now returned to the UK.

Mr Maher said: “We have seen British fighters out there operating as suicide bombers, we have seen them operating as executioners. Unfortunately they are amongst some of the most vicious and vociferous fighters who are out there. That is unfortunately just a part of their radicalisation.

“This is the first time we have seen the Isil adopt this rather aggressive, directly confrontational approach to the Western world with the execution of James Foley. If that intensifies, they may look to British fighters within their ranks … to look towards sending some of them back to carry out attacks here. It’s a very real threat.”

Here we profile some of the Britons who have travelled to Syria and Iraq to take up arms.

Abu Abdullah Britani

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Britani, 32, is one of ten Britons from Portsmouth to have travelled to Syria to fight for Isil.

He uses Twitter to post pictures of his life as an insurgent, including an image of an automatic rifle hanging on a hook in a changing room, and another of a similar weapon on top of a gym bag.

In one post he wrote: "The children here have hearts of lions. When the helicopters [are] out they still play on the streets pointing their toy guns towards the sky."

He has also used the Ask. Fm chat room website to give advice to would-be jihadis planning on travelling from Britain, including a teenage boy who said he had never travelled alone before and was worried his parents would find out.

Britani assured the boy that when he arrived he would be given an AK47 assault rifle, four magazines of ammunition, a “vest pack” and a grenade.

Muhammad Hamideer Rahman

Muhammad Hamideer Rahman

Like many other Britons, Rahman, 25, from Portsmouth, is believed to have flown from Gatwick airport to Turkey before making the short overland journey to Syria. A former supervisor at Primark, he was shot dead in July.

His father Abdul Hannan, 52, an Indian restaurant worker, said the family received a text message from a friend of his son in Syria saying Rahman was dead. He had told his father he “wanted to become a Shaheed (martyr) for the sake of Allah”.

Mashudur Choudhury

Mashudur Choudhury

Choudhury, 31, accompanied Rahman and four others to Syria in 2013 but returned to the UK and became the first person to be convicted of taking part in terrorist activity in Syria. He claimed during his trial at Kingston Crown Court in May that he never intended to fight, but wanted to move his family abroad to escape what he said were failures in his life in Portsmouth.

But he had talked on social media about dying a martyr’s death, and joked that he and his friends from Portsmouth could form their own group called the al-Britani Brigade Bangladeshi Bad Boys. He will be sentenced next month.

Iftekhar Jaman

Ifthekar Jaman

The 23-year-old from Portsmouth travelled to Syria last year to join Isil and told the BBC’s Newsnight programme in an interview via the Internet that is was his “duty” to fight because Muslims were being “slaughtered”. His friends Rahman and Choudhury and another man named as Abu Dujana followed him to Syria before he was killed in December.

Salma and Zahra Halane

Salma and Zahra Halane

The 16-year-old twin sisters from Manchester ran away to Syria to become “jihad brides” in July. They passed 28 GCSEs between them and had hoped to become doctors before they left their family home in the middle of the night to fly to Turkey. Their elder brother was already in Syria fighting with Isil.

Jaffar, Amer and Abdullah Deghayes

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Jaffar Deghayes, who at the age of 16 became possibly the youngest Briton to travel to Syria, went to the Middle East with his brother Amer, 20, last year from their home in Brighton. Their older brother Abdullah joined them in January but was killed earlier this year.

After Abdullah’s death Jaffar posted a picture of him on Facebook with the message “may the eyes of the cowards never sleep”. Amer, who was fighting with the al-Qaeda affiliated group Jabhat Al-Nusra, appeared on Newsnight via an Internet video link saying he “couldn’t care less” if he was regarded as a terrorist.

Nasser and Aseel Muthana

Nasser and Aseel Muthana

In June it emerged that Nasser Muthana, a 20-year-old medical student from Cardiff, and his brother Aseel, 17, were in Syria fighting for Isil. Nasser appeared in a recruitment video – the first Isil propaganda video produced in English – saying he was being filmed in Syria but promised to take the fight to Iraq. Last week he posted a video of damage done to a Syrian army base saying: “I’m getting good with these bombs.”

Their father Ahmed was told by police in November that Nasser, who he thought was at a seminar in Shrewsbury, learnt his oldest son had been recruited to a terrorist cell in Syria in November, only to find his second son followed him in February. He claims his children have been "brainwashed."

Reyaad Khan

Reyaad Khan & Nasser Muthana

A 20-year-old friend of the Muthana brothers who also appeared in the propaganda video with them, warning he had “fireworks” for the US if they returned to combat in Iraq. Khan, from Cardiff, once talked about becoming Britain’s first Asian prime minister, but now uses Twitter to boast about his role in the “execution” of prisoners in Syria, prompting calls for him to be prosecuted for war crimes if he is ever caught.

Aine Davis

Aine Davis

Born and brought up in Hammersmith, west London, Davis was a drug dealer and gang member who converted to Islam and was further radicalised during a spell in prison.

Earlier this month his wife, Amal El-Wahhabi, was convicted of funding terrorism after she persuaded a friend to fly to Istanbul with £16,000 in her underwear intended for Davis who is thought to be in Syria. When police searched his London home they found speeches by hate preachers Abu Hamza and Anwar al-Awlaki on his iPod.

Abdul Waheed Majeed

Abdul Waheed Majeed

The first Briton to carry out a suicide bombing in Syria, Majeed, 41, drove a truck loaded with explosives into the Aleppo prison in February.

Described as a “very dear brother” by the hate preacher Omar Bakri Mohammed, whom he used to drive to a mosque in Crawley, West Sussex twice a week, Majeed killed dozens of Syrians when he carried out the bombing for the al-Qaida-linked Jabhat Al-Nusra group. He had kept in touch with his wife and children in Crawley via Skype, and worked as a contractor for the Highways Agency.

At least 19 Britons, including one suicide bomber, are known to have died in the fighting.
 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...LREADY-UK.html The homegrown jihadists fighting for ISIS: How one in four foreigners who have signed up for Islamic State is British - and how half of them are ALREADY back in the UK

500 of the 2,000 estimated foreign ISIS fighters are believed to be British
MP believes that figures are 'nonsense' and figure closer to 2,000 Britons
Majority are flying to Istanbul then catching a bus over the Syrian border
Government reveals that only 23 passports have been seized this year
More British Muslims fighting for ISIS than serving in the British Army


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This undated image shows a frame from a video released by Islamic State militants Tuesday, Aug. 19, 2014, that shows the killing of journalist James Foley by a militant who spoke with a British accent.(Photo: AP)

LONDON — It is likely that there are now more British Muslims fighting for the Islamic State than for Britain's military.

Britain's Ministry of Defense confirmed to USA TODAY that there are approximately 600 British Muslim servicemembers in its armed forces of almost 200,000 people. Official government estimates put the number of British Islamic State fighters operating in Syria and Iraq up to 800. The Foreign Office cautioned Thursday that it is difficult to provide precise numbers.

The militant who beheaded American journalist James Foley in a horrifying video released this week spoke with a British accent. United Kingdom Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond acknowledged that the militant in the video could be a British national. And he knows the problem of British jihadists is not a new one.

"This is something we have been tracking and dealing with for many, many months and I don't think this video changes anything," he said. "It just heightens awareness of a situation which is very grave."

Khalid Mahmood, a member of Parliament from an area with a high proportion of Muslim residents, said government estimates of the number of British IS fighters currently in the Mideast is far too conservative. He told Newsweek magazine this week that at least 1,500 extremists are likely to have been recruited to fight in Iraq and Syria over the last three years.

"There are an unacceptable number of Britons fighting for jihadist forces," he said.

Experts say the number of Americans fighting for the Islamic State is much lower. Joseph Young, a criminology professor at American University and expert on political violence, said simple geography and the complex cultural differences between the U.S. and Europe are primary reasons why.

Young, who said common estimates put the number of American fighters for IS at 100 to 150, said just getting to Syria or Iraq is extremely complicated from North America. But the Islamic State's home region is practically next door for Europeans.

"We also do a better job of integrating our minority communities," Young said. "Isolation of minority groups is a much bigger problem in Europe."

Raffaello Pantucci, a researcher at Royal United Services Institute in London, said many young men facing poor job prospects in the U.K. find the IS narrative of defending Islam hard to resist. He agrees with Young -- Syria and Iraq are relatively accessible from England.

"These people can go look online and just decide to participate," he said. "With its proximity to Europe it's just so easy to do."

Ghaffar Hussain, of the Quilliam Foundation, a counter-extremism think tank in Britain, said the lure could be empowerment for many British Muslims with grievances over their treatment in a predominantly non-Muslim society.

"It makes them feel like they are part of something that is important to the world," he said. "If you feel like you don't really fit in or if Muslims are being attacked and a narrative comes along that explains all that away in a simple way, that is attractive."

Hussain said a task force was set up – called Channel – to identify people who have been flagged in schools and institutions as being at risk of being drawn into extremism. Channel then pairs them with a mentor who assesses their needs and tries to offer support. But, he said, a major failing of the program is that it only works if individuals are flagged by the system.

"When it comes to the hard-edge, counterterrorism stuff, a lot of good work has been done by the government in terms of thwarting a hell of a lot of plots in recent years, but there are a lot of gaps outside of Channel," Hussain said. "Taking it seriously is one thing, knowing what to do is another," he said.

Hussain said that extremism of the kind that is leading British nationals to Iraq and Syria is not limited to Britain but is a western European phenomenon seen in Holland, France, Denmark and other places. He said would-be fighters probably enter Syria through Turkey, though it's not clear exactly how.

Christopher Davidson, a Mideast expert at Durham University, said there's been a massive lack of attention to the flow of Westerners headed to the region. "As long as they have been supposedly fighting the (Syrian President Bashar) Assad regime, authorities have turned a blind eye to it. Now that they are going to Iraq we are starting to experience the blow back," he said.

Young noted that completely stopping the flow of Westerners is probably asking too much.

"Young men throughout time and space have done these kinds of things," he said.

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Primitive Muslims who were for some reason (Jews) living in Britain have taken to social media to post celebratory images of their violent acts with their racial kinsman, ISIS.

It is ridiculous, these people. Very funny though to see modern technologies being used by primitive savages. Something about the contrast.

Anyway, great job bringing all of these people into your country, Britain. When they get back from Syria and Iraq, it’s gonna be a super special fun time you have at the ensuing party.

It is then that you will know true diversity and vibrancy, and you will finally be enriched to the max.

Enjoy it.

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Britain will not work with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the battle against Islamic State (IS) extremists, the foreign secretary has told the BBC.

Philip Hammond said to do so would not be "practical, sensible or helpful".

Former head of the Army Lord Dannatt and ex-Foreign Secretary Sir Malcolm Rifkind called for the move following the beheading of US journalist James Foley by IS militants.

Mr Hammond also defended the monitoring of suspected extremists in the UK.
'Poison'

The UK government has called for President Assad to be removed as Syrian leader as a result of his actions during the country's civil war.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4's The World at One, the foreign secretary said to co-operate with the Syrian regime would "poison" what the UK was trying to achieve.

He said: "We may very well find that we are fighting, on some occasions, the same people that he is but that doesn't make us his ally."


Earlier, Lord Dannatt called for a dialogue.

He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "I think whether it's above the counter or below the counter, a conversation has got to be held with him."

Sir Malcolm, the chairman of Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee, said history had shown that "sometimes you actually have to make an arrangement with some nasty people in order to get rid of some even nastier ones".

The US has described IS, which has seized large swathes of northern Iraq, as the biggest threat it has faced in recent years.

In the video of Mr Foley's murder, IS militants threatened to kill another American if the US did not stop its air strikes against the group in northern Iraq.
'More investment'

Police and security services are trying to identify the jihadist - who had an English accent - who appeared in footage of Mr Foley's killing.

Unconfirmed reports suggest the man is from London or south-east England.

The government has defended its approach to extremists at home, following calls for a change in strategy prompted by the killing.
Jihadist shown in James Foley beheading video The man shown in the video spoke with an English accent

Mr Hammond said "significant powers" were available to deal with people planning to travel to Syria or Iraq to fight including withdrawing passports, monitoring them while overseas and arresting them on their return.

The Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation, David Anderson, said the right balance had been achieved between protecting freedom and security.

However, Mr Anderson said he had recommended tougher restrictions on terror suspects kept under Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures (TPims).

TPims are used to restrict movement, the use of computers and mobile phones and meetings with others. They replaced the previous system of control orders - which were more restrictive - in 2011.

Lord Carlile, a former independent reviewer of terrorism laws, said control orders should be reintroduced.

And he called for more investment in the Prevent strategy, which distributes money to anti-extremism schemes across the country.

He added: "We must ensure that the Prevent strand of counter-terrorism policy is given the funding it needs so that it can work in all parts of the country".

Usman Nawaz, a former government adviser on extremism, told the BBC: "I don't think the government is doing enough to have a conversation with young Muslims, or to understand what's going on in the mind of young Muslims, the vast majority of whom completely reject the ideas and ideologies of [IS]."

A former Labour Foreign Office minister, Kim Howells, said successive governments and religious leaders were to blame for the radicalisation of Muslims in Britain.

Mr Howells said it was time to address the "narrative" among some Muslims that they were the victims of a "plot" to suppress them.



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Apparently, there are more “British Muslims” (an oxymoron) fighting for ISIS than are enrolled in Britain’s military.

Should this be surprising?

Presumably there are also more ethnically British people fighting for Britain than for ISIS.

Why would someone fight for the opposite team? Because of “civic nationalism” (another oxymoron)?

Britain’s Ministry of Defense confirmed to USA TODAY that there are approximately 600 British Muslim servicemembers in its armed forces of almost 200,000 people. Official government estimates put the number of British Islamic State fighters operating in Syria and Iraq at up to 800. The Foreign Office cautioned Thursday that it is difficult to provide precise numbers.

The militant who beheaded American journalist James Foley in a horrifying video released this week spoke with a British accent. United Kingdom Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond acknowledged that the militant in the video could be a British national. And he knows the problem of British jihadists is not a new one.

“This is something we have been tracking and dealing with for many, many months and I don’t think this video changes anything,” he said. “It just heightens awareness of a situation which is very grave.”

Khalid Mahmood, a member of Parliament from an area with a high proportion of Muslim residents, said government estimates of the number of British Islamic State fighters currently in the Mideast is far too conservative. He told Newsweek magazine this week that at least 1,500 extremists are likely to have been recruited to fight in Iraq and Syria over the last three years.

“There are an unacceptable number of Britons fighting for jihadist forces,” he said.

Experts say the number of Americans fighting for the Islamic State is much lower. Joseph Young, a criminology professor at American University and expert on political violence, said simple geography and the complex cultural differences between the U.S. and Europe are primary reasons why.

Khalid Mahmood with his civic rhetoric is simply a Trojan Horse. I wouldn’t be surprised if he himself is secretly sending half his income to ISIS and other terrorist organizations.

The idea of fighting against your own race is retarded on every conceivable level, and not something than anyone other than a White man (or woman) would ever engage in. Unless, I suppose, there was some massive personal benefit, such as heaps of Jew gold. However, Whites fighting against their own race in White countries are not getting heaps of Jew gold. They are just getting feel-good propaganda.

If we cannot fight for our own, we do not deserve to exist. Period. This is the law of nature. If the White race finally decides to destroy itself completely, real men will have no choice but to join the enemy forces, as they will have proven themselves the benefactor of nature itself.

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Old August 22nd, 2014 #94
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“British Muslims” (an oxymoron). Blow it, I was going to say that.
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By "British" do they mean ethnic White British, or just some paki/sand nigger migrant with British citizenship?

Because the guy in the Foley execution video to me appears to be a White British man. His face is covered, but you can clearly see the shape of his face around the eyes, and I'm 95% sure that is a White face.

Are White British really converting to Islam in any considerable numbers?
 
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Your guess is as good as ours as to what is meant by "British". It can mean indigenous to these Isles or it can mean born here or it can mean got a passport here - whatever they want it to mean, really.

As for significant numbers converting - I don't think there's that many - relatively speaking - but when they do, they tend to make such a spectacle of themselves and go to such extremes about it that they're never out of the news. It just seems like there's lots.
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Any White person would have to be really fucked up in the head to convert to Islam. And they'd have to be completely psycho to join ISIS.
 
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Any White person would have to be really fucked up in the head to convert to Islam. And they'd have to be completely psycho to join ISIS.
A moot point maybe Crowe, but there is nothing "Islamic" whatsoever about the ZOG created ISIS "soldiers" of fortune.
 
Old August 22nd, 2014 #99
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Post Why Is Britain a Breeding Ground for ISIS Terrorists?

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The voice of an apparent British militant narrating the video showing the beheading of American journalist James Foley has triggered renewed questions about why the U.K. is a breeding ground for jihadis.

At least 400 Britons are among the estimated 2,000 Europeans who are fighting for the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), according to Prime Minister David Cameron. And the ease with which Europeans can travel into Syria through Turkey has alarmed intelligence officials in the West.

On Thursday, NBC News reported that three militants with British accents had been dubbed “The Beatles” by hostages taken in Syria. A person close to several recent hostage negotiations said “The Beatles” were harsher than other guards. “Whenever the Beatles showed up, there was some kind of physical beating or torture,” the source added.

Britain has a “deeply entrenched problem,” according to the Quillam Foundation, an anti-extremist think tank. “London historically has had Islamist ideology being taught openly without being challenged and there are many people who have grown up knowing and believing that the only way to be Muslims is to create this Islamic state,” said Harris Rafiq, Quilliam’s head of outreach. “It’s not surprising that jihadis have been able to cherry-pick these people.”

The true number of British jihadis could be even higher. Khalid Mahmood, a U.K. parliament lawmaker from Birmingham, England, estimates that at least 1,500 Brits have been recruited by extremists fighting in Iraq and Syria over the last three years–more than double the number of Muslims currently serving in the U.K. military.

However, the numbers are inevitably higher in European nations with large Muslim populations. “When you look at the raw numbers, it’s not the best way to get a sense of how deep the problem is,” said Shiraz Maher, senior research fellow at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalization at London’s King’s College. “What we’ve done is to wade through the numbers of foreign fighters in relations to the Muslim population of those countries. When you do it like that, Belgium is actually way off the chart. But the Scandinavian countries feature very highly, and Britain as well.”

Britain’s problem with radicalized Muslims–described by Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond as “a poison, a cancer”–is made acute chiefly because of its role as the biggest global ally of the United States in the tarnished invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.

At the same time, English is gaining traction as the language of choice for recruitment videos and other online propaganda because it has greater viral potential on social media.

“It’s no coincidence that the [Foley beheading] video was in English,” said Ghaffar Hussain, managing director of Quillam. “If the West, particularly America, is where you are trying to get your message heard, it makes sense.”

Social media is a powerful tool, especially for recruiting young male Muslims, according to Hussain. “The violent messages appeal to the macho element and the sense of going to join a fight,” he said, citing the recent case of Muhammad Hamidur Rahman, a 25-year-old killed while fighting in Syria after quitting his job at a British branch of fashion chain Primark. “One minute you’re working as a shop assistant, next minute you’re on the front line with a gun. It’s an attractive idea for many.”

Last month, engineering student Abdul Raqib Amin also told how he had left Aberdeen, Scotland, to join ISIS. He described the journey to join the militants as one of the happiest moments of his life.

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Wearing the Islamic veil, or burqa, is banned in public places in France, Belgium and parts of Switzerland. In contrast, England’s professional body for family attorneys recently began offering training courses in drafting wills that are compliant with Islamic Shariah law.

Some commentators argue that this tolerance has left Britain more exposed to the threat posed to its Muslim communities by radical Islam.

“In the U.K., with our proud tradition of freedom and not wanting to get involved in religious disputes, we have been bending over backwards to regard murderous ideologies as expressions of free speech,” said Anthony Glees, director of the University of Buckingham’s Centre for Security and Intelligence Studies. “Islamist extremist ideologies have spread with relative ease under the cover of ‘free speech’ and ‘multiculturalism’.”

Glees added that Britain’s predominantly Sunni Muslim population was also particularly vulnerable to the allure of the jihadi message from Sunni ISIS.

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Immigrant girls from both Britain and France and going to Syria and Iraq to fight for ISIS.

Girls.

Married to an Islamic State extremist in Syria complete with handguns and his’ n’ hers Kalashnikov rifles, Khadijah Dare’s is no ordinary life.

But it is a world away from her previous existence as the Lewisham teenager who wore jeans and platform heels and loved her mother’s home cooking.

And hours after the beheading of American journalist James Foley at the hands of a British jihadist, this 22-year-old gloated on social media at his execution and vowed that she would be the first British woman to kill a US soldier.

Dare was gleeful that the ‘UK must be shaking up’ after the execution and from her home in the Syrian scrub she tweeted: ‘Any links 4 da execution of da journalist plz. Allahu Akbar. UK must b shaking up haha. I wna b da 1st UK woman 2 kill a UK or US terorrist!’

Dare’s Twitter account is already notorious – not least because of the photograph of her then four-year-old son Isa, meaning “Jesus”, holding an AK-47 rifle.

Her Twitter feed is littered with images of dead bodies and Islamic State propaganda, but juxtaposed with these are pictures which belie the normal young girl she once was.

The irony of the images she has posted of ‘beautiful’ sunsets, baby seals and a kitten in a teacup alongside those of extremist horror are apparently lost on her.

Khadijah Dare – one of her many post-conversion pseudonyms – grew up in Lewisham, south London, as a non-Muslim, and an acquaintance of hers told the Evening Standard that she was ‘very endearing and sweet.

Two girls, aged 15 and 17, are under investigation in France for allegedly making plans to join jihadis in Syria.

The Paris prosecutor’s office said on Friday that the girls, one from Tarbes in the southwest, the other from the city of Lyon, were placed under investigation a day earlier for criminal association in relation with a terrorist enterprise, a standard charge in terrorism cases in France. The girls are under strict judicial control, according to the prosecutor’s office. It wasn’t clear whether they were returned to their families.

I guess this means multiculturalism has failed?

All these people do is complain and riot.

But maybe we just need to give them more money and everything will be okay.

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