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Old May 20th, 2012 #2581
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Crazy John has been gone for quite a while. Perhaps he has been in Israel getting his new marching orders from the Wise Elders of Zion. They must include the disruption of serious threads on the subject of White Nationalism.
 
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(With a tip of the hat to the Edgar J. Steele Thread "policeman," whom you know is automatically notified when anyone posts here, who'll complain quickly this is off-topic and maybe report to his handler(s) or maybe is just self-appointed and obsessed. Perhaps he'll wait a while but he'll probably be back further pleading his case to the court of Steele's public's opinion. This sort of criticism doesn't deter even children who don't get attention for being good and find misbehaving works better.)

We're back into essentially the same political and legal environment as during the Clinton years, Obama being America's second Black President. Hillary's alleged deal for forgiving hubby publicly for his alleged indiscretions toward his reelection (She reportedly had a separate bedroom in the White House and allegedly at least had an affair with Vince Foster herself) was co-Presidency with authority for domestic matters. Can you say Hillary's Health Plan/ObamaCare?

And so the federal government is going to go after high profile targets that suit their agenda while the Justice Department, men of good character in the FBI notwithstanding, is going to provide cover, leniency, whatever, for both cooperators and distractions, e.g., Larry Fairfax.

The Mueller murders was a compound-complex case, for example, and Justice did an admirable job possible of simplifying it for a mostly Black jury. You may recall that machinations around who made the decisions regarding Waco, arguably the "White House" and Webster Hubbel, were deflected with the buck stopping at Justice (Janet Reno who was at least the Clinton's third choice for Attorney General and I'm sure she had to agree to certain conditions for the appointment including not just defending the Republic but the Clinton's personally). Remember who's the AG, these days?

Reading Unlimited Access... will get you thinking: Each chapter begins with two quotes on the same subject, one by Saul Alinsky and the other by George Washington. And I don't take a position on career federal bureaucrats generally and the FBI, in particular, having encountered the good, the bad, and the ugly in every agency over the years. But I was fascinated to have recently had a copy of this book come my way from someone thoughtful who thought I'd appreciate it. So many copies sold that they are in used bookstores, in library discards, and at both new from and used through
Amazon.com: Unlimited Access : An FBI Agent Inside the Clinton White House (9780895264060): Gary Aldrich: Books Amazon.com: Unlimited Access : An FBI Agent Inside the Clinton White House (9780895264060): Gary Aldrich: Books
. Its probably a better look at the West Wing than that old TV show by the same name.

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Ezra Pound spent 12 years in St. Elizabeth's, for example. Due process in such instances only amounts to getting two psychiatrists to agree. http://sitewww.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=90662
 
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Crazy John has been gone for quite a while. Perhaps he has been in Israel getting his new marching orders from the Wise Elders of Zion. They must include the disruption of serious threads on the subject of White Nationalism.
That's how to quickly prevent editing and deletion of such time and space-wasting, libelous posts, the author refers-to as "serious" discussion of "White Nationalism." Notice the inclusion of the weasel-word "perhaps" which only weakens such allegations rhetorically but arguably leaves one simply firing-for-effect a legal loophole.


On the weakest of tactics one notes in argumentation & debate targeting amateurs: The ad hominem attack fallacy, from MERRIAM WEBSTER:

Definition of AD HOMINEM

1: appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect

2: marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made

Origin of AD HOMINEM is New Latin, literally, "to the person"

First Known Use: 1598

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Listen to Wesley Hoyt, Edgar's attorney in this March 29, 2012 interview as he describes the terrible injustice done to Edgar Steele. Not only was there massive government misconduct, Edgar's own attorney, Robert T. McAllister betrayed him to gain favor with the Feds who were secretly investigating McAllister before, during and after the trial. McAllister's 29 felony count indictment remained sealed until a week AFTER Edgar was sentenced, thereby further ruining Edgar's appellate options.
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What purpose is there in keeping Steel under under the jail ? Steel is 65 in poor frail health unless some one knows that is not the case.

If he is no danger to others, and is broken politically, financially and health wise, plus he has served a warning to other White lawyers to watch it, then why not release him on humanitarian grounds ?

Why would TPTB not just release him ?

No one out side of the internet and few there know of him IMO.
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Listen to Wesley Hoyt, Edgar's attorney in this March 29, 2012 interview as he describes the terrible injustice done to Edgar Steele. Not only was there massive government misconduct, Edgar's own attorney, Robert T. McAllister betrayed him to gain favor with the Feds who were secretly investigating McAllister before, during and after the trial. McAllister's 29 felony count indictment remained sealed until a week AFTER Edgar was sentenced, thereby further ruining Edgar's appellate options.
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This entire video is a scam. They now claim that legal expenses have passed $400,000 and only $71,000 have been collected. They previously claimed that $120,000 has been collected. With no more work than McAllister did, he could not have billed more than $40,000.

Hoyt is lying about the theft of silver. By Cyndi's own testimony, Steele sold off $55,000 worth of silver at $18 per ounce on 21 April, 2010. This was 6 weeks before he was arrested. There was no explanation as to where this money went. Part B Medicare should have paid for every penny of his surgery. Cyndi claimed that most of the money was still in their checking account when he was arrested. If so, this is another proof that Steele had gone crazy. You don't sell off your silver to put idle cash in your checking account. I speculate that she is lying and most of that money went to Tatyana.

It is undisputed that Fairfax sold about $10,000 worth of silver at $18 per ounce. No evidence was offered that he sold any more silver than that. Steele wrote two letters from his jail cell within two weeks of his arrest claiming Fairfax had stolen $45,000 worth of silver. He had no way of knowing that because all of his silver was seized when he was arrested. Cyndi did not file a theft report on the supposed missing silver until September 2010. The claim that Fairfax stole silver is bogus. He indeed defrauded Steele by taking money to blow his wife up with a pipe bomb and not intending to do the job.

Steele's supporters have been swindled out of at least $120,000. This is the most gigantic fraud EVER perpetrated on White Nationalism. It puts Duke's best work to shame. At least Duke was a good tipper on Riverboat crap tables. More importantly, it discourages White Nationalist activism because of unjustified fear of government frame jobs. I recommend that no one give a penny to these swindlers until they admit that they have been lying about Steele being framed. It is time to get him out of prison and get him the medical help that he needs.

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What purpose is there in keeping Steel under under the jail ? Steel is 65 in poor frail health unless some one knows that is not the case.

If he is no danger to others, and is broken politically, financially and health wise, plus he has served a warning to other White lawyers to watch it, then why not release him on humanitarian grounds ?

Why would TPTB not just release him ?

No one out side of the internet and few there know of him IMO.
Harpham got 32 years for setting the pipe bomb on the MLK parade in Spokane. He pleaded guilty. Steele got near the minimum sentence set by Congress. The judge tacked on 10 years for the witness intimidation charge which I thought was bogus. He could have ordered that time to be served concurrently. It didn't help Steele a bit to dare the judge to set the Guinness Book of Records on his sentence. This is another proof that he was crazy.

Fairfax got a sweetheart deal by pleading guilty to manufacturing an unregistered firearm. He should have been cellmates with Steele and shared his sentence.

The San Diego pipe bomber Hoagland faces life in prison after his conviction for the pipe bombing that seriously injured and nearly killed his wife. Steele's sentence is not really out of line for what pipe bombers usually get. If Steele had plea bargained, he might have gotten out in five years or less.
 
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What purpose is there in keeping Steel under under the jail ? Steel is 65 in poor frail health unless some one knows that is not the case.

If he is no danger to others, and is broken politically, financially and health wise, plus he has served a warning to other White lawyers to watch it, then why not release him on humanitarian grounds ?

Why would TPTB not just release him ?

No one out side of the internet and few there know of him IMO.
As you can see, Steele's sentence was not significantly out of line. Congress has made most of these types of sentences mandatory. The ATF tried to pin this bombing of a Negro on Terrible Tommie Metzger. This is apparently why that they raided his house a few years back and seized his computer. If you have ever corresponded with him, the ATF has your name and email address.

We now have five convicted pipe bombers associated with White Nationalism serving their sentences in Federal prison.

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PHOENIX, May 23 (UPI) -- A federal judge in Arizona has handed a 40-year jail sentence to a white supremacist for a 2004 bombing that seriously injured a black diversity director. Dennis Mahon, 61, was found guilty in February of conspiring to use explosives to damage buildings and property and distribution of information related to explosives, The Arizona Republic, Phoenix reported.

Dan Logan, who was diversity director of Scottsdale, Ariz., in 2004, was badly injured when a pipe bomb delivered to his office exploded in his hands. Two other Scottsdale city employees were also injured. During the trial, prosecutors said Mahon and his twin brother, Daniel, carried out the bombing on behalf of the White Aryan Resistance, an organization that encourages members to commit acts of violence against non-whites.

Mahon maintained his innocence in federal court moments before he was sentenced by U.S. District Judge David Campbell. His twin brother was found not guilty of a single count of conspiracy to damage buildings and property.

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... We now have five convicted pipe bombers associated with White Nationalism serving their sentences in Federal prison.
I'm sure the distinction between "five convicted pipe bombers" as opposed to five convicted of pipe bombing won't be lost on some of you watching.
 
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I'm sure the distinction between "five convicted pipe bombers" as opposed to five convicted of pipe bombing won't be lost on some of you watching.
I certainly would never accuse you of being White. Whiggers are not properly considered White. Steele certainly doesn't belong in prison because he is crazy. Fairfax and Harpram are self professed pipe bombers who belong in prison.

Something smells about the Mahon brothers in Phoenix. They don't look like they are smart enough to make a pipe bomb. Why would they target this particular Negro? The ATF was never able to link Terrible Tommie with them. It takes a rather deranged individual to use a pipe bomb to try to kill someone. There are far better ways to take care of such problems that don't attract so much attention. The Mahon brothers were rather Whigger like and not valuable targets of the ATF.

If Steele wanted to kill his wife and he were sane, she would have fallen over a cliff on a camping accident. Paying your handyman to do such a job is proof of his insanity. It forever subjects you to blackmail and your hired killer going to the cops.

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Note that this guy could have gotten 80 years and 33 months but got only 40 years. Since the Negro was seriously injured, it could be argued that Steele was dealt with a bit harshly because his pipe bomb never went off. Steele got 50 years. However, 10 of that was likely for smarting off to the judge and daring him to set the Guinness Book of World Records for length of sentence. That is another proof that he is crazy.

It is not clear why the ATF tried to pin this on Terrible Tommie. If they are framing people, they clearly didn't do it to him.

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A federal court judge on Tuesday imposed a 40-year sentence on a White supremacist who was behind a 2004 bombing that seriously injured Scottsdale's diversity director.

A jury found Dennis Mahon, 61, guilty in February of conspiracy to damage buildings and property by means of explosives, malicious damage of a building by means of explosives, and distribution of information related to explosives. Mahon was sentenced to 40 years in prison for the first two counts and 33 months for the third count, all to be served concurrently.

His twin brother, Daniel, was found not guilty of a single count, conspiracy to damage buildings and property.

Dennis Mahon maintained his innocence in court moments before he was sentenced. "I didn't do this crime. I can't apologize for something I didn't do,'' he said.

A pipe bomb was addressed to then-Diversity Director Don Logan, who is Black, and was delivered to his office Feb. 26, 2004. When Logan opened the cardboard box, the 1-by-5-inch pipe bomb exploded in his hands, badly injuring him. He has since recovered. Two other city employees also were injured.

U.S. District Court Judge David Campbell defended the jury's conclusion that the case did not warrant conviction of a hate crime. "The jury was never asked if this was a hate crime," Campbell said. Instead, the jury was asked a narrow question on whether they believed Logan was targeted because he was Black. "I think there were a lot of motives. All reasons were racial as well. They were never asked that broad question," Campbell said. "Mr. Mahon acted to promote racial discord."

Mahon's defense attorney, Deborah Williams, argued that 40 years is effectively a life sentence for Mahon and "should be reserved for the taking of a life. That is not the case here."

During the hearing, Logan said the experience only strengthened his resolve.
"I wasn't supposed to survive that attack, but it charted my course that people deserve equal justice, equal treatment,'' said Logan, who retired from his Scottsdale job in 2007 and now works for Glendale. Logan said he took the judge's comments as a de facto hate-crime conviction, even though it was not classified in that way. "He didn't know me; all he hated was what I represented,'' Logan said of Mahon, after Tuesday's sentencing. Logan said he was satisfied with the sentence.

During the six-week trial, prosecutors said the Mahon twins carried out the bombing on behalf of the White Aryan Resistance, an organization that encourages its members to commit acts of violence against non-Whites. Prosecutors played racist voice-mail messages that Dennis Mahon left for an undercover informant in which he called Logan a racial slur.

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Both of these guys are a lot smarter than they look (not the Negro). I can't imagine how they would need Terrible Tommie to instruct them on how to build a pipe bomb. There seems to be a Negro in this woodpile.

This comes from the FAA website for aircraft mechanic ratings.


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"According to the Poverty Pimp, the ATF is trying to link Terrible Tommie to this pipe bombing. I find it hard to believe that Tommie would get involved in something like this. He surely has learned something after paying money to the family of that Ethiopian Negro for the last 20 years. This Negro was even more harmless than Tommies (sic) last one. I sent this hate page to Tommie but have received no reply. [Emphasis is mine]

"On the other hand, I believed that Steele was framed in his pipe bombing case for the longest time. Finally evidence proved beyond a doubt that he had gone crazy from aorta surgery..."

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You disruptive Whigger! Facebook has nothing to do with this case. You need to be tarded.
 
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...OEV seeks to... counter extremist ideology and propaganda [and] to develop new techniques and tactics the US could use "to counter the adversary in the cyber domain...

• This article was amended on 18 March 2011 to remove references to Facebook and Twitter, introduced during the editing process, and to add a comment from Centcom, received after publication, that it is not targeting those sites.

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Let's keep the comments on here serious. I don't want, and will not allow, anyone on here to put out material that can be used by the communist pedophiles and sordid homosexuals of the SPLC and ADL. Neither will I allow you to sport with Steele's reputation. You can comment, even speculate, but keep it sober and clean.
I couldn't agree more.

Upon review of this thread, once again, not having seen the actual evidence, much less not being an expert in current audio technology or brain damage, all I know is what I don't know. That said, I'm of the opinion that-- regardless of how tedious this thread has become-- a little moderation would be in order to prevent the ongoing, repetitive attack on Mr. Steele's reputation irregardless of his conviction. Name-calling is about as childish as it gets and is, when repeated ad nauseam to the detriment not only of the discourse but, by inference, the apparent character of those disposed to dialogue here. I would have been easier to moderate timely but going back and cleaning it up would probably not be a waste of time.

It has always been up to Mr. Steele and his attorney to decide on whether to mount an insanity defense. Repetition of assertions of Mr. Steele's insanity by Mr. Pauly in the most offensive terms would seem to go beyond speculation. Such pleading one's case in the court of public opinion beyond verifiable facts, at this point, brainwashing if you will, is certainly sporting not only with Mr. Steele's reputation but the credibility of his writings that I believe Mr. Steele would consider his most important life's work. My posts haven't speculated on Edgar J. Steele's guilt or innocence but have included objecting to what is presumably libel/slander by Mr. Pauly.

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I certainly would never accuse you of being White. Whiggers are not properly considered White. Steele certainly doesn't belong in prison because he is crazy. Fairfax and Harpram are self professed pipe bombers who belong in prison. Something smells about the Mahon brothers in Phoenix. They don't look like they are smart enough to make a pipe bomb. Why would they target this particular Negro? The ATF was never able to link Terrible Tommie with them [WAR]. It takes a rather deranged individual to use a pipe bomb to try to kill someone. There are far better ways to take care of such problems that don't attract so much attention.
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The Mahon brothers were rather Whigger like and not valuable targets of the ATF. If Steele wanted to kill his wife and he were sane, she would have fallen over a cliff on a camping accident. Paying your handyman to do such a job is proof of his insanity. It forever subjects you to blackmail and your hired killer going to the cops.

Article on the Arizona bombings (In the run-up to the OKC bombing, Carol Howe probably WAS a confidential informant for what was then known as the BATF) http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...to-okc-bombing

Transcript of Carol Howe testimony in Terry Nichols OKC bombing trial including references to WAR: http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/project...testimony.html

More on Carol Elizabeth Howe and Dennis Mahon: http://www.constitution.org/okc/jdt03-13.htm

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