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View Poll Results: In an ALL-WHITE STATE, I favor CENTRAL government that
is Strong and Centralized (White-Ant-ism, more like NS Germany or today's ZOG) 44 44.00%
attends only to defense, broadly defined (White-Man-ism, more like 1776 America) 56 56.00%
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Old October 1st, 2009 #1
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Default The Continental Divide Poll: Where WN Stand on Government

This is intended to be the grossest, crudest split possible. Don't put any thought into it, go with your instincts. Don't worry about what I think, you already know that, I want to know what YOU think.

The goal here is to get a VNN-representative picture of what most WN view as the role of government...now pay attention...

IN AN ALL-WHITE STATE.

Get that?

That means we all know that a good deal of power will be required to get rid of muds and the jews who doused us with them. We're not talking about the period of taking power. We're talking about AFTER the jews and muds have been vanquished, and by vanquished we mean TOTALLY REMOVED from North America. So this poll assumes there are no non-whites, no jews around. We're talking about, and we're ONLY talking about, arrangements by which whites live with and among other whites.

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Old October 1st, 2009 #2
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I've always tried to float the idea of a Separatist Party. Openly advocating that America be divided into a Euro-America, an Afro-America, a multicultural America, etc. A peaceful solution and a win/win solution. We could even appeal to the anti-racists and the black nationalists. Everyone gets what they want. Do we want to see results or just complain and debate?
 
Old October 1st, 2009 #3
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Unless non-Whites have been removed from the entire planet (ala The Turner Diaries), a very strong and central government will be necessary to maintain - economically and politically, as well as militarily - a "first among equals" status for the White Nation.

As a numerical demographic minority in the world population, Whites will need the force of their collective effort to maintain and survive (to live the 14 words) in an otherwise non-White world that will hate them unconditionally.
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Old October 1st, 2009 #4
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This is intended to be the grossest, crudest split possible. Don't put any thought into it, go with your instincts. Don't worry about what I think, you already know that, I want to know what YOU think.

The goal here is to get a VNN-representative picture of what most WN as the role of government...now pay attention...

IN AN ALL-WHITE STATE.

Get that?

That means we all know that a good deal of power will be required to get rid of muds and the jews who doused us with them. We're not talking about the period of taking power. We're talking about AFTER the jews and muds have been vanquished, and by vanquished we mean TOTALLY REMOVED from North America. So this poll assumes there are no non-whites, no jews around. We're talking about, and we're ONLY talking about, arrangements by which whites live with and among other whites.
I like how you applied the jew principle to your poll.

Like I said before, when ever these jews want to oppose something they equate it with "Nazism". Now you want to stand against National Socialism in favor of your own "greater" ideology and you try to get your point across by equating National Socialism with ZOG?

Now who wouldn't want to vote against anything related to "ZOG"? So obviously they'll vote for you and then you turn around and say "Hey! My solution is far greater than National Socialism".

Rabbi Alex Swindler!!! That's who you really are!

Yes...I definitely brought it up for the "donations" that needs to go your way through acts of obvious deception.

Jewish fraudster!
 
Old October 1st, 2009 #5
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The strong centralized one will probably necessary in the far FAR future to really develop technology and take our seed to the stars (as silly as that sounds).
 
Old October 1st, 2009 #6
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Back when I wondered why is Alex Linder so obsessed about trying to dissuade us from naming the Jew from semite features (Calling an Arab or a Turk a Jew isn't really a miss). After contemplating why and observing his other tendencies it has become painfully obvious why.
 
Old October 1st, 2009 #7
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Back when I wondered why is Alex Linder so obsessed about trying to dissuade us from naming the Jew from semite features (Calling an Arab or a Turk a Jew isn't really a miss). After contemplating why and observing his other tendencies it has become painfully obvious why.
Au contraire, it's not painful at all. It's a relieve! Now we can all finally NOT take him serious anymore. Already wasted far too much time on that ridiculous pursuit, time to move and actually get somewhere.
 
Old October 1st, 2009 #8
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I like Germans, I'm part German. I liked the Nazi's(the real ones, not the dress up kind). I liked Hitler and appreciated what he was trying to do. It didn't work out that great but the guy was smart, tough and completely fearless.

Would I want to live in Nazi state? Well, it would be clean, safe, ultra modern and most importantly....no jews. But I still wouldn't want to live there because I know there would be limited freedom. Nazism was German Nationalism, not White Nationalism. It would still be a hell of a lot better than living under zog tyranny but still not my cup of tea mostly because I know I wouldn't have the freedoms that the US Constitution and Bill of Rights affords me.

Would I have free speech under Nazi rule? Could I say, "fuck Hitler" at the top of my lungs and still go about my business?

Would I have the right to bear arms under Nazi rule? Somehow I think the Gestapo and SS might have a problem with that.

How about the right to free association? Say I didn't want to hang around Nazi's. Think they'd be down with that?

How about due process, self-incrimination, eminent domain? Is that in the Nazi playbook on how to run a government?

Protection from unreasonable search and seizure? Is that something Nazi's would have no problem with?

No, I wouldn't want to live in a Nazi state. I'd feel limited, like I couldn't do or say what I wanted. If I disagreed with the party line what would Nazi's do to me? It probably wouldn't be very pleasant depending on how strongly I disagreed.

I'll take the Founding Fathers over the Nazi's please. Any sane, freedom loving White man would.
 
Old October 1st, 2009 #9
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When I was 20, strong central NS-style government sounded pretty good. Parts of it still do, but at twice that age and having lots more experience with bureaucrats and human nature, that idea has lost its shine.

What do I want from government in a post-jew world? I want it to be small and local, where possible. I don't want to have to wade through miles of red tape. I don't want to have submit plans for approval if I want to build a woodshed on my land, or a deck on my home. I don't want my kids to be required to buy 4 different permits to open a lemonade stand. I want to be left alone.
 
Old October 1st, 2009 #10
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I liked the Nazi's(the real ones, not the dress up kind). I liked Hitler and appreciated what he was trying to do. It didn't work out that great but the guy was smart, tough and completely fearless.
Have to get behind someone's back to get a good stab at them, eh?

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But I still wouldn't want to live there because I know there would be limited freedom.
Your freedom is of no use to yourself, you have nothing to do with it. Those who have something to do with it will have freedom regardless, the superior man is under no liability to give the inferior man anything other than to rule over him fairly in a way that benefits both of them.

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mostly because I know I wouldn't have the freedoms that the US Constitution and Bill of Rights affords me.
Pretty funny how you rhile against Christianity for having no racial basis while being a patriotard moron "Hooray Amerikuh, Hooray duh Constitution and duh Bill'a'Rights" Consider this : All NS states have racial laws, all. The Constitution? Casteless, raceless, soulless and most of all spineless.

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Would I have free speech under Nazi rule? Could I say, "fuck Hitler" at the top of my lungs and still go about my business?
You can be a fag in your own house just as you can say whatever degenerate things you like in your own home that's how freedom works everywhere. In such a society it's doubtful the law would do anything to you but you would surely become a social outcast and likely would have to move out. Such is strict social order. Want degeneracy? You already have it.

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Would I have the right to bear arms under Nazi rule? Somehow I think the Gestapo and SS might have a problem with that.
In a NS nation there is no need to protect yourself from your neighbors. The only reason a gun is necessary here in the US is for me to protect myself from all of you. That is because to me you are all potential enemies. That is why it's needed , because your society is degenerate.

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How about the right to free association? Say I didn't want to hang around Nazi's. Think they'd be down with that?
Typical Kwan melodrama, you really are living in the 1970's old man.

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How about due process, self-incrimination, eminent domain? Is that in the Nazi playbook on how to run a government?
Do you even read up on the things you attempt to criticize or is this all just from some old docu-drama that you watched in your Kwan school as a kid?


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No, I wouldn't want to live in a Nazi state. I'd feel limited, like I couldn't do or say what I wanted. If I disagreed with the party line what would Nazi's do to me? It probably wouldn't be very pleasant depending on how strongly I disagreed.
Like I said, people like you don't need freedom, only a capable brain needs it and NS is all about that. That's how caste works , the brainless get to shut up. It's very agreeable with me.

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Old October 1st, 2009 #12
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I don't want to see a White ethnostate experience the same fate as the Confederacy. In the nineteenth century, "limited government" in the South translated into chronic underdevelopment. We lost our independence because of this philosophy.

1.) The North strangled the Confederacy with the Union Navy. The Confederacy had to build a Navy from scratch. Before the Civil War, it had been cheaper for us to rely upon Yankee and British shipping. Look at the misery that brought us.

2.) Thanks to decades of internal improvements, subsidies, and tariffs, the North had almost all of America's industry in 1861-1865. Once again, it had been cheaper for Southerners to rely upon the North and Britain for manufactured goods. When the Civil War broke out, we had to create our industries from scratch, but it was too little, too late.

3.) The North was crisscrossed with railroad track and had a highly developed transportation system thanks to its activist government. The South had nothing that could compare. Yet another disaster for us in the Civil War.

4.) The North's manufacturing industries attracted millions of White immigrants from Northern Europe which swelled its population. The South didn't have the manpower to fight off Lincoln's invasion indefinitely.
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Back when I wondered why is Alex Linder so obsessed about trying to dissuade us from naming the Jew from semite features (Calling an Arab or a Turk a Jew isn't really a miss). After contemplating why and observing his other tendencies it has become painfully obvious why.
Post your picture then so we may determine your racial characteristics.
 
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1776 America already contained Jews and did not mandate any laws against them. Fuck both options. Today's America is not Zionist, but Jewish(JOG) and not the likes of National Socialism or Fascism.

Fascism and National Socialist were both forces in raising the German and Italian economies back to normalcy. NOT THE SAME AS JUDEO-CAPITALISM!
 
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I like how you applied the jew principle to your poll.

Like I said before, when ever these jews want to oppose something they equate it with "Nazism". Now you want to stand against National Socialism in favor of your own "greater" ideology and you try to get your point across by equating National Socialism with ZOG?
I'm not NS, and have never said I was and have always said I was not. NS Germany and ZOG/kwa, while aiming at different ends, are very fairly characterized as strong central governments. Now, little pussy troll sockpuppet guy, stop trying to mess up my poll. It is farily constructed, it is as pure and raw a split as can be.

This poll is not intended to find out where those who call themselves WN are, not to prove that one position or another is right or more desirable, I do that elsewhere. This poll is purely to find out what WN/VNN think.
 
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1776 America already contained Jews and did not mandate any laws against them. Fuck both options. Today's America is not Zionist, but Jewish(JOG) and not the likes of National Socialism or Fascism.

Fascism and National Socialist were both forces in raising the German and Italian economies back to normalcy. NOT THE SAME AS JUDEO-CAPITALISM!
Again, the point here is to establish whether WN favor a strong or weak central government.
 
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Again, the point here is to establish whether WN favor a strong or weak central government.
Yes, and I choose none of the above. One answer is bashing NS government and the other is complimenting the degenerate society of today.
 
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Post your picture then so we may determine your racial characteristics.
Why? Is Linder going to change just because I do it?
 
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....2 for a lady godiver, 5 for a cock-an-hen.....

(White-Ant-ism, more like NS Germany or today's ZOG)
attends only to defense, broadly defined (White-Man-ism )

White-Man-ism, White-Man-ism ....only while stocks last.

...come on.... come on...errr you go err you go ....don't go home without it.

 
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