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Old August 27th, 2011 #1
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This piece will tell you that you have been led to hold certain beliefs which are false and ignorant of the facts. The media kikes have force-fed you a steady diet of bullshit.

Why not take the time to educate yourself?

Attitudes & Stereotypes of Southerners

Stereotypes, insults, name calling, discrimination and even defamation of Southerners is prevalent in American pop culture, as well as in the media and in historical depictions of Southerners. The frequency of Southerners being portrayed as "persona non grata" in the upper economic classes or as "the other" (as opposed to Americans from other U.S. regions) has decreased somewhat in the last half of the 20th-century, despite Southerners conforming no less to type than they have in previous times. Some stereotypical views often held by non-Southerners typically depict Southerners as laid-back, hospitable, jolly and carefree, but most other Southerner stereotypes are not nearly as positive, including the erroneous conception of the vast majority of Southerners residing in trailer parks or in (rural) poverty.

A great number of TV shows, movies and comedic representations often portray Southerners as rednecks, hillbillies, white trash, or simply trash. Other negative treatments depict Southerners as uniformly backward, uneducated, uncouth, wretched, dirty or unhygienic, poor or impoverished, inbred (from family incest and thus genetically inferior byproducts of the same), fanatically religious (as Fundamentalist Christians and Protestant Evangelicals who "hate" Catholics, Jews and members of non-Christian religions), hyper-realistic, racist and xenophobic, sexist and homophobic, ultraconservative and/or extremely patriotic, self confident, constantly romanticizing slavery/the antebellum era and the Civil War, rude/impolite, speaking with heavy drawls/accents, disrespectful, over-authorizing and even tyranus to minors, loud and obnoxious, obese and/or overweight, rabid country music and/or NASCAR fans, and as simpleton "hicks" in "remote" and "isolated" small towns.

Southerners who have traveled and lived in the "North" (Northeastern and Midwestern U.S. states) and the Western U.S. often encounter verbal attacks, teasing and mockery. Some Southerners have openly discussed encountering negative Southern stereotypes in the media. Nancy Grace, Georgia-born prosecutor turned talk show host on the CNN network, spoke of her experiences of being viewed as "less intelligent" due to her Southern accent while she lived in New York City. Some popular nicknames for the South in the media are "red states" or "flyover states", which indicate an assumption of less-importance or that they are on the American political fringe.[citation needed]

Pronounced regionalisms and cultural differences are often cited as the cause of stereotypes about Southerners. A very popular negative image of white Southerners is that many are secret members of the Ku Klux Klan or other fringe movements such as the Council of Conservative Citizens and the John Birch Society. Another is they are all radical right-wingers or "neo-cons" (conservatives) registered in the Republican Party or "gun-nuts" and Tea Party movement protestors. White Southerners are often displayed as being parochial and intolerant of anything different from their own homogeneous provincial culture, despite the fact that Southern culture is not monolithic, as it varies greatly by state, church and ethnic origin (for example, the Cajuns of Louisiana and the "hillbilly" culture of southern Appalachia).
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i knew in grade school that contrary to what was taught in school and stated by the u.s. govt., that reconstruction really never ended. not the attitude towards the non-moneyed members of the white race anyway. even though most of their family members migrated from europe after the end of the yanqui war of aggression.

oh, just one more thing. the next time a northerner says he or she is proud to be a yankee, tell them that it is a pejorative term originally used by the east coast indians, to describe a white who thinks he knows more than he does or is better at something when he or she is not. in short, an asshole.
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I figure if the media hates and makes fun of us so much then we must be on to something. Spent most of my life in the South and can honestly say that after extensive traveling that the most backwards people I ever saw were in MO, IA, and IND. You might could make the case that MO is in the South but I am POSITIVE that Mr. Linder would dissagree.
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While it's true that jews are not welcome here, equally with niggers and mexicans, our white Southern heritage, particularly our image of whites being superior, has never diminished.

The whole problem, is that northerners are so indoctrinated that they've lost the ability to even use their natural ability to discern truth from fiction. What's worse, is they haven't even the capacity to understand that simple fact.

Even WNs who should know better don't. They are very well aware of the jew mind-fuck, but have decided to embrace it. Given that, I ask you, which of us lacks sound reasoning?
 
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I figure if the media hates and makes fun of us so much then we must be on to something. Spent most of my life in the South and can honestly say that after extensive traveling that the most backwards people I ever saw were in MO, IA, and IND. You might could make the case that MO is in the South but I am POSITIVE that Mr. Linder would dissagree.
Hmm...you can't spell disagree, and you seem to think it's a matter of opinion whether Missouri is in the South. I'll wager you've seen the inside of a Baptist church or two in your time, S-O.

Missouri is a border state - the elite are northern, but plenty of the average people are southern. South of I-44 has a very Southern feel, but even up here 22 miles south of Iowa there is too. Anywhere Baptists are in large number is going to be on a low level culturally, whether those baptists hail from Maine or Alabama.

Your anecdotal impression could be interesting, but I will guarantee you that emphatically non-Southern state Iowa ranks higher on test scores and the rest of the social indicators than ANY state in the South. And Iowa is emphatically 100% northern, nothing but blue-eyed thick-built German peasants as far as the eye can see, whereas the lower 1/3 of Illinois and Indiana are considered by some (Jimmy Cantrell for one) to be culturally Celtic or Southern. The people you are calling backward in Northern states are very likely Southerners who originated in North Carolina or Tennessee/Kentucky.

I hold no brief for the South, true, but that doesn't mean I think the North is better. I think they're both unappealing for different reasons. The West is the best part of the country, and the part I identify with.

Just as Buchanan isn't our friend because the jews attack him with the same terms they use against us, neither is the South free of flaw because the jews abuse it, in their mass media, unfairly and dishonestly.

To some extent, it's a matte of taste. The South is not to my taste. I don't like its religiosity, I don't like its stupidity, and I find laughable the absolutely invincible Southern belief that Southerners are tough. To me, that's directly equivalent to niggers thinking they're tough. If the South were really tough in the physical sense, it would have won the war. And I am quite bitter it didn't win the war, because it was in the legal right, and had the duty to win it. And we are all worse off because it lost. In my view it could have won. And the reason it didn't win is its culture of vainglorious stupidity mixed with religion.

Its toughness is basically a communal myth that disappears when you look at it closely. To be tough in my book, and yeah, no reason to care what I think, I just love you enough to give you my honest opinion (well, actually it amuses me and I think I'm right), you would have had to seriously study the technical reasons your culture failed to defend itself. That has never been done. Otherwise you wouldn't worship Lee and Jackson, you'd respect them but see where they went wrong. Easy enough to see from the outside. Their christian mysticism killed America and made our racial position today 1000x worse. Yet another reason to disdain the hated jebus cult. I actually believe Lee, sitting around moping after the war, came to something very close to my opinion, though I doubt he ever expressed it. Mockers always win. The religious merely endure. Their only real strength is numbers. White men doubt. Less-white men believe. Our race became what it is through daring and doubt, not faith. At some point we are going to have to find within the ability to stand on our racial feet and quit pawning off responsibility on jesus, god, and other noggin goblins.

I believe only White racial defense can preserve Southern culture. The counter view is Southern conservatism can somehow prevail as the nation disintegrates. Doesn't seem likely to me. The South has never yet been able to defend itself, and as it hasn't got any new general manager, quarterback or skilled position players, I don't see that changing. Same old succotash of jebus and rebel yells will lead the same place it always has.

As difficult as serious change is, I think our chance lies in rejecting our Anglo-Christian legacy in favor of something colder, preciser and fanaticaler. Whatever toughness Southerners do have is surely more physical than mental. The Southrons fight well enough in ZOG's neocon jews' wars; I'm sure, harnessed to a White cause, they'd serve us well too. We Northern-Westerners merely have to figure out the right way to organize them. Perhaps by being deliberately insulting I can inspire some Southerner to prove me wrong. Doubt it, but, as a side view, obnoxiousness is an underrated technique when it comes to spurring progress obliquely.

How are we, if the South has the answers, going to beat people who buy all the books (jews, for those of you who need help) with people who can't even spell common words - and don't think misspelling matters?

How can we beat the jews without being intellectual? Is the South intellectual?

How can we beat the jews without being ideological? Is the South ideological?

How can we beat the jews without being fanatical? Is the South fanatical?

How can we beat the jews without being coordinated, organized, detail-obsessed? Are Southerners known for having high numbers of coordinated, organized, detail-oriented people? Are those staples of its culture?

But the meta-point here is that the South, the Southerners, aren't even interested in these questions. They don't see that they matter.

One of our cause's serious critics, and not an anti, said WN are driven by internal emotional needs, not objective demands of the situation. That's pretty much the history of the South in a nutshell. No fucking interest in figuring out what's actually going on - from Robert E. Lee right down to the bottom.

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Alex, you really should get out more.

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The Southern United States—commonly referred to as the American South, Dixie, or simply the South—constitutes a large distinctive region in the southeastern and south-central United States. Because of the region's unique cultural and historic heritage, including that of Native Americans, early European settlements of Spanish, English, French, Scots-Irish, Scottish, and German,[1] importation of hundreds of thousands of enslaved Africans, presence of a large proportion of African Americans in the population, reliance on slave labor, and the aftermath of the Confederacy after the Civil War, the South developed its own customs, literature, musical styles, and varied cuisines that have helped shape traditional American culture.

In the last few decades, the South has become more industrialized and urban, attracting numerous national and international migrants. The American South is among the fastest-growing areas in the United States. Despite rapid economic growth, the South still has persistent poverty, and every Southern state with the exceptions of Maryland, Virginia and Florida has a higher poverty rate than the American average.[2] Poverty is especially prevalent in rural areas. Sociological research has indicated that Southern collective identity stems from political, demographic and cultural distinctiveness. Studies have shown that Southerners are more conservative than non-Southerners in several areas including religion, morality, international relations and race relations.[3][4] This is especially evident during presidential elections and religious attendance figures.[3][4]

In the 21st century, the South remains demographically distinct with higher percentages of blacks. When blacks are combined with whites, it appears that the South has lower percentages of high school graduates, lower housing values, lower household incomes and higher percentages of people in poverty.[5] However, when race is taken into consideration, Southern whites do as well as Northern whites, Southern blacks do as well, or better, than Northern blacks.[6][7] That, combined with the fact that Southerners continue to maintain strong loyalty to family ties, has led some sociologists to label white Southerners a "quasi-ethnic regional group."[8] In previous censuses, the largest ancestry group identified by Southerners was English or mostly English,[9][10] with 12,382,681 self-identifying as "English" on the 1980 census, followed by 10,930,279 identifying as "Afro-American" and 3,679,277 as German.[9][10]

Apart from the still-distinctive climate, the living experience in the South increasingly resembles the rest of the nation. The arrival of millions of Northerners (especially in the suburbs and coastal areas)[11] and millions of Hispanics[12] means the introduction of cultural values and social norms not rooted in Southern traditions.[13][14] Observers conclude that collective identity and Southern distinctiveness are thus declining, particularly when defined against "an earlier South that was somehow more authentic, real, more unified and distinct."[15] The process has worked both ways, however, with aspects of Southern culture spreading throughout a greater portion of the rest of the United States in a process termed "Southernization".[16]
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Hmm...you can't spell disagree


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And what do you imagine that article shows, o Fred of small brain?

The nation has been centralized and increasingly homogenized, both by plan and policy and by technology - roads, phones, tv. It's hard for anything distinct to survive anywhere, these days. I don't like that. I prefer different cultures, so there actually is a reason to travel. And I've traveled plenty, ol' Freddie.
 
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The South was out numbered, 10:1, had no manufacturing base, and was thwarted in its attempts to win over allies such as England & France.

Look at the demographics above, there are still only 25 million in the South, from a total of 325 million. What does that say to you?
 
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The South was out numbered, 10:1, had no manufacturing base, and was thwarted in its attempts to win over allies such as England & France.

Look at the demographics above, there are still only 25 million in the South, from a total of 325 million. What does that say to you?
Exactly what I said above: the South would rather fight than think.* It allowed its illusions about its own toughness to overcome what plain reason should have made clear. People from Georgia, Alabama, and Texas are tougher than people from Michigan, Wisconsin and Nebraska? People who are actually tough don't brag about being tough. They beat your ass without, frankly, really caring much about the matter. I'd shut my mouth and then think until I reached the right conclusion. But then again, I'm not Southern.

*The very point made by Rhett Butler in "Gone with the Wind," and picked up by Sam Francis in his essay.

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Don't expect me to apologize for the South because of your lack of understanding. I love the South, tho there are many things I would change if I could. I will defend her to my dying breath, but there is no reason to support your wrongful theory by making excuses.
 
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Exactly what I said above: the South would rather fight than think.
The South was invaded, would you have rather seen our side surrender?
 
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Don't expect me to apologize for the South because of your lack of understanding. I love the South, tho there are many things I would change if I could. I will defend her to my dying breath, but there is no reason to support your wrongful theory by making excuses.
Excuses? How about counter-arguments to the points I made, or explanation of why my characterization of Southern culture in relation to our racial cause is inaccurate? That's how a thinking man would respond to criticism. How you feel about the South doesn't interest me, as I already know, and it's not germane.
 
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Hmm...you can't spell disagree, and you seem to think it's a matter of opinion whether Missouri is in the South. I'll wager you've seen the inside of a Baptist church or two in your time, S-O.

Missouri is a border state - the elite are northern, but plenty of the average people are southern. South of I-44 has a very Southern feel, but even up here 22 miles south of Iowa there is too. Anywhere Baptists are in large number is going to be on a low level culturally, whether those baptists hail from Maine or Alabama.

Your anecdotal impression could be interesting, but I will guarantee you that emphatically non-Southern state Iowa ranks higher on test scores and the rest of the social indicators than ANY state in the South. And Iowa is emphatically 100% northern, nothing but blue-eyed thick-built German peasants as far as the eye can see, whereas the lower 1/3 of Illinois and Indiana are considered by some (Jimmy Cantrell for one) to be culturally Celtic or Southern. The people you are calling backward in Northern states are very likely Southerners who originated in North Carolina or Tennessee/Kentucky.

I hold no brief for the South, true, but that doesn't mean I think the North is better. I think they're both unappealing for different reasons. The West is the best part of the country, and the part I identify with.

Just as Buchanan isn't our friend because the jews attack him with the same terms they use against us, neither is the South free of flaw because the jews abuse it, in their mass media, unfairly and dishonestly.

To some extent, it's a matte of taste. The South is not to my taste. I don't like its religiosity, I don't like its stupidity, and I find laughable the absolutely invincible Southern belief that Southerners are tough. To me, that's directly equivalent to niggers thinking they're tough. If the South were really tough in the physical sense, it would have won the war. And I am quite bitter it didn't win the war, because it was in the legal right, and had the duty to win it. And we are all worse off because it lost. In my view it could have won. And the reason it didn't win is its culture of vainglorious stupidity mixed with religion.

Its toughness is basically a communal myth that disappears when you look at it closely. To be tough in my book, and yeah, no reason to care what I think, I just love you enough to give you my honest opinion (well, actually it amuses me and I think I'm right), you would have had to seriously study the technical reasons your culture failed to defend itself. That has never been done. Otherwise you wouldn't worship Lee and Jackson, you'd respect them but see where they went wrong. Easy enough to see from the outside. Their christian mysticism killed America and made our racial position today 1000x worse. Yet another reason to disdain the hated jebus cult. I actually believe Lee, sitting around moping after the war, came to something very close to my opinion, though I doubt he ever expressed it. Mockers always win. The religious merely endure. Their only real strength is numbers. White men doubt. Less-white men believe. Our race became what it is through daring and doubt, not faith. At some point we are going to have to find within the ability to stand on our racial feet and quit pawning off responsibility on jesus, god, and other noggin goblins.

I believe only White racial defense can preserve Southern culture. The counter view is Southern conservatism can somehow prevail as the nation disintegrates. Doesn't seem likely to me. The South has never yet been able to defend itself, and as it hasn't got any new general manager, quarterback or skilled position players, I don't see that changing. Same old succotash of jebus and rebel yells will lead the same place it always has.

As difficult as serious change is, I think our chance lies in rejecting our Anglo-Christian legacy in favor of something colder, preciser and fanaticaler. Whatever toughness Southerners do have is surely more physical than mental. The Southrons fight well enough in ZOG's neocon jews' wars; I'm sure, harnessed to a White cause, they'd serve us well too. We Northern-Westerners merely have to figure out the right way to organize them. Perhaps by being deliberately insulting I can inspire some Southerner to prove me wrong. Doubt it, but, as a side view, obnoxiousness is an underrated technique when it comes to spurring progress obliquely.

How are we, if the South has the answers, going to beat people who buy all the books (jews, for those of you who need help) with people who can't even spell common words - and don't think misspelling matters?

How can we beat the jews without being intellectual? Is the South intellectual?

How can we beat the jews without being ideological? Is the South ideological?

How can we beat the jews without being fanatical? Is the South fanatical?

How can we beat the jews without being coordinated, organized, detail-obsessed? Are Southerners known for having high numbers of coordinated, organized, detail-oriented people? Are those staples of its culture?

But the meta-point here is that the South, the Southerners, aren't even interested in these questions. They don't see that they matter.

One of our cause's serious critics, and not an anti, said WN are driven by internal emotional needs, not objective demands of the situation. That's pretty much the history of the South in a nutshell. No fucking interest in figuring out what's actually going on - from Robert E. Lee right down to the bottom.
But how white is the north now? How white is Iowa today?

True, Iowa's racial make up in 2000 was 91.0% White, with the five largest ancestry groups in Iowa being German (35.7%), Irish (13.5%), English (9.5%), American (6.6%), and Norwegian (5.7%).

But alas, what Iowa is comprised of now is anybody's guess since census figures are quite strangely all over the board for Iowa and almost impossible to decipher since Iowa became a fertile dumping ground for penniless, ignorant refugees courtesy of Iowa's ten or more U.S. Refugee Resettlement Agencies (Church World Service, Ethiopian Community Development Council, Episcopal Migration Ministries, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, Iowa Department of Human Services, International Rescue Committee, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, U.S. Committee for Refugees and Immigrants, United States Conference of Catholic Bishops/Migration and Refugee Services, and World Relief among others).

Since 1975, the "Iowa Bureau of Refugee Services" has worked hand in hand with the U.S. Department of State as one of ten voluntary agencies contracted with the U.S. Department of State to resettle refugees, and Iowa became the only state in the US with its very own state refugee bureau. It went into overdrive under Clinton when over 80,000 Balkan refugees, mainly Bosnian Muslims, were resettled primarily in America’s Midwest.

Over 30,000 refugees have been "resettled" in Iowa over the past 35 years thanks to deals between the refugee folks, the US State Department and Tyson Foods and Swift & Company. At first, they came from from Southeast Asia, then in the 1990s, from Bosnia and Croatia. Then Iraq. Then Burma and Nepal. More recently, Bhutanese, Sudanese and Somailian (Somalis arrived in Emporia with tuberculosis). The trend continues toward dumping even more of the "darker complected" in Iowa.

So even if indeed, Iowa was 100% "northern, nothing but blue-eyed thick-built German peasants as far as the eye can see", it won't be allowed to stay that way for long. The refugees breed at a high rate. Where does this conversation go then?

Climate plays a huge role in sharpness of intellect. I have known plenty of very intelligent southerners... once they got out of the sun. Southerners in northern universities do just as well as northerners, and southerners in northern jobs do just as well as northerners. I've also known northerners transplanted to the south who grew lazy, started liking Jimmy Buffet and ate too much fried food.
 
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The South was invaded, would you have rather seen our side surrender?
I would have rather seen the South swallow its pride and use its brains to avoid hot war. But if the war had come anyway, I would rather have seen the South terrorize the living fuck out of the north the way Sherman did, and burn down the capitol, and in general do whatever it needed to do, including everything the church calls immoral, in order to force the sniveling Northern shits to live by the legal terms the states agreed to when the nation was formed. But you were too weak to do that. You cared about your reputation, not the future of your kind and OUR country. Now we pay the price, ALL OF US, daily. The North needed its ass kicked in the worst way, and you all "tough" guys couldn't deliver it. Now we ALL SUFFER for your light hand. Just irony after irony after irony.
 
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Exactly what I said above: the South would rather fight than think.
There is a vast difference between picking a fight and defense of home & hearth. Yes, the South will fight, then and now, but that is not likely in this country nowadays.

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It did a pretty good job of kicking yankee ass in the early days of that war, despite lacking numerical equivalency. Toughness wasn't the consideration, it was honor. It was refusing to be shat upon by yankee elites and their quest for absolute control. It was refusing to lie still while being raped.

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People from Georgia, Alabama, and Texas are tougher than people from Michigan, Wisconsin and Nebraska?
Not necessarily, but Michigan, Wisconsin and Nebraska weren't knowingly being raped, were they? In fact, they were the rapist tools.

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People who are actually tough don't brag about being tough. They beat your ass without, frankly, really caring much about the matter. I'd shut my mouth and then think until I reached the right conclusion. But then again, I'm not Southern.
Does physical toughness mean much today? I think being propaganda savvy, computer literate, and understanding the forces you command as well as those arrayed against you is far more important. Mental toughness is more beneficial these days.

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Clearly you haven't even read Alex's original post in this thread:

"If the South were really tough in the physical sense, it would have won the war. And I am quite bitter it didn't win the war, because it was in the legal right, and had the duty to win it. And we are all worse off because it lost. In my view it could have won. And the reason it didn't win is its culture of vainglorious stupidity mixed with religion."
 
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Clearly you haven't even read Alex's original post in this thread:

"If the South were really tough in the physical sense, it would have won the war. And I am quite bitter it didn't win the war, because it was in the legal right, and had the duty to win it. And we are all worse off because it lost. In my view it could have won. And the reason it didn't win is its culture of vainglorious stupidity mixed with religion."
I read it, and I understand.

I'm deeply embittered for the same reasons.
 
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