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Old January 15th, 2014 #1
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Default #1 Serial Killers Thread (also for ordinary murders/executions, heavyweight crimes globally)

[anything related to serial killers in this thread, doesn't have to be political. we have a thread on BLACK serial killers in crime section]

no black serial killers

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Old January 15th, 2014 #2
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Albert Fish: one of the very worst of them all.

His account of the murder of 4 year-old Billy Gaffney in 1927:

"I brought him to the Riker Ave. dumps. There is a house that stands alone, not far from where I took him ... I took the G boy there. Stripped him naked and tied his hands and feet and gagged him with a piece of dirty rag I picked out of the dump. Then I burned his clothes. Threw his shoes in the dump. Then I walked back and took trolley to 59 St. at 2 A.M. and walked from there home. Next day about 2 P.M., I took tools, a good heavy cat-of-nine tails. Home made. Short handle. Cut one of my belts in half, slit these half in six strips about 8 in. long. I whipped his bare behind till the blood ran from his legs. I cut off his ears – nose – slit his mouth from ear to ear. Gouged out his eyes. He was dead then. I stuck the knife in his belly and held my mouth to his body and drank his blood. I picked up four old potato sacks and gathered a pile of stones. Then I cut him up. I had a grip with me. I put his nose, ears and a few slices of his belly in the grip. Then I cut him thru the middle of his body. Just below his belly button. Then thru his legs about 2 in. below his behind. I put this in my grip with a lot of paper. I cut off the head – feet – arms – hands and the legs below the knee. This I put in sacks weighed with stones, tied the ends and threw them into the pools of slimy water you will see all along the road going to North Beach. Water is 3 to 4 ft. deep. They sank at once. I came home with my meat. I had the front of his body I liked best. His monkey and pee wees and a nice little fat behind to roast in the oven and eat. I made a stew out of his ears – nose – pieces of his face and belly. I put onions, carrots, turnips, celery, salt and pepper. It was good. Then I split the cheeks of his behind open, cut off his monkey and pee wees and washed them first. I put strips of bacon on each cheek of his behind and put in the oven. Then I picked 4 onions and when meat had roasted about 1/4 hr., I poured about a pint of water over it for gravy and put in the onions. At frequent intervals I basted his behind with a wooden spoon. So the meat would be nice and juicy. In about 2 hr., it was nice and brown, cooked thru. I never ate any roast turkey that tasted half as good as his sweet fat little behind did. I ate every bit of the meat in about four days. His little monkey was as sweet as a nut, but his pee-wees I could not chew. Threw them in the toilet."


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The first guy who comes up is Charles Manson.One little problem.Manson wasn't a serial killer.He fits a lot better into the mass murderer category.
 
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The worst I've read about are Dean Corll and Randy Kraft.

Both queers.
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Seems like most of them are gay and have a thing for young men or little boys. Gays tend to have a thing for S&M and other perversity's.

Even the ones who are not hardcore faggots seem to have some homosexual history. I heard a story that Charles Manson in his younger days sodomized a teenage male while at a youth detention camp.
 
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Seems like most of them are gay and have a thing for young men or little boys. Gays tend to have a thing for S&M and other perversity's.

Even the ones who are not hardcore faggots seem to have some homosexual history. I heard a story that Charles Manson in his younger days sodomized a teenage male while at a youth detention camp.
Correct. And they often have been victims of abuse as children: like Carl Panzram, a notorious fag butcher who'd been brutalized in reform schools & prisons, Fish spent time in a D.C. orphanage where he and the other boys were viciously beaten & sexually abused, and where he was introduced to other perversions like piss-drinking & shit-eating. Plus, he came from a family with a deep strain of insanity.
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Old January 16th, 2014 #7
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The first guy who comes up is Charles Manson.One little problem.Manson wasn't a serial killer.He fits a lot better into the mass murderer category.
Manson didn't actually murder anybody, so far as was proved. He was considered the guiding mind behind the actions of others. Apparently it was some dumb strong kid who did all the actually killing; even the dopey broads following Manson just made a few after-stabs, last I read.
 
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The worst I've read about are Dean Corll and Randy Kraft.

Both queers.
What about Wisconsin's own Jeff Dahmer? A queer who tried to use an electric drill to create sex zombies. I think he deserves some consideration.
 
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What's interesting, if you study the facts on sex deviants, is the strong link, particularly among women, between sex deviancy and other crimes. Drug use, crime, sexual promiscuity are not unrelated, as one might think. I'm still shocked by the fact that your average lesbian has had more male sexual partners than your average female normal. As for men, if you look at the queers who contract whatever AIDS ultimately turns out to be, they are an STD-ravaged, pill-addicted bunch of head cases by any historical human standards. Which is why they call themselves gays. They are as far away from the dictionary definition of gay as it is possible to get. Of course, that's par for the leftist course, as we at VNN well know.
 
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Seems like most of them are gay and have a thing for young men or little boys. Gays tend to have a thing for S&M and other perversity's.

Even the ones who are not hardcore faggots seem to have some homosexual history. I heard a story that Charles Manson in his younger days sodomized a teenage male while at a youth detention camp.
I posted an interview with him the other day. Flesh was flesh to ol' Kentucky Chucky, he says this directly, while running his 80-year-old sexy hand up the male interviewer's arm.
 
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Oddly enough, the fictional serial killer doll Chucky, was invented by an Italian-American queer. Well, the character was invented by the queer; the physical doll was created by a jew; I don't know if the queer had particular input. I notice the doll has Aryan features other races never have - blue eyes and red hair.

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Andrei Romanovich Chikatilo

was a Soviet serial killer, nicknamed the Butcher of Rostov, the Red Ripper, and the Rostov Ripper, who committed the sexual assault, murder and mutilation of a minimum of 52 women and children between 1978 and 1990 in the Russian SFSR. Chikatilo confessed to a total of 56 murders and was tried for 53 of these killings in April 1992. He was convicted and sentenced to death for 52 of these murders in October 1992 and subsequently executed in February 1994.

Chikatilo was known by such titles as the Rostov Ripper and the Butcher of Rostov because the majority of his murders were committed in the Rostov Oblast of the Russian SFSR.
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Old January 16th, 2014 #13
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What's interesting to me about serial killers / crime in general.

- how many women are interested in this stuff. Women have small brains and large imaginations. The funniest thing about women is they all genuinely think they are different from other women, yet they 99% respond the same way to the same stimulus.

- realize that the larger part of the audience for the SVU CSI shit is female. That stuff is just intolerable, but women eat it up. I don't think one would naturally think it was geared to women, but it is. Go prove me wrong, though, I have not seen any actual stats, I'm just talking.

- serial killers: my brother worked with someone (in Utah) whose sister was thought to have been killed by Ted Bundy, though it couldn't be proved, so I've always been somewhat interested in that case. Bundy was also interesting for what his case showed about jails back then, and some of his sociological observations. I've mentioned these from time to time over the years. He said funny things too: "I've often felt if I'd had enough new socks and underwear, none of this ever would have happened." He said that he never truly understood human behavior until he was in prison where the drives were stripped bare, the animal drives that motivate human behavior. He then understood that what we see on the street is an upholstered analogy to what is openly expressed in jail. Bundy also observed than in a transient, open society like the US, there are very many opportunities to prey on victims, since many times no one will even notice they're gone, at least not for a long time.

- just as porn is the 'killer app' that drives new technology (since people's first use of most new technology is to get laid or watch people screwing), serial killing has to a good extent driven computerization of cop records. Bundy and the Green River Killer got the FBI to computerize its files, whereas previously they were mostly on paper. Of course, the computer industry was comparatively undeveloped back in the late seventies and early eighties.
 
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Andrei Romanovich Chikatilo

was a Soviet serial killer, nicknamed the Butcher of Rostov, the Red Ripper, and the Rostov Ripper, who committed the sexual assault, murder and mutilation of a minimum of 52 women and children between 1978 and 1990 in the Russian SFSR. Chikatilo confessed to a total of 56 murders and was tried for 53 of these killings in April 1992. He was convicted and sentenced to death for 52 of these murders in October 1992 and subsequently executed in February 1994.

Chikatilo was known by such titles as the Rostov Ripper and the Butcher of Rostov because the majority of his murders were committed in the Rostov Oblast of the Russian SFSR.
How did the communists treat criminals/crimes like this in their press, I wonder? Do they feel the need to come up with some kind of ideological motive, since they believe all behavior is socially constructed? How could someone living in a worker's paradise off 52 women and children? It seems like the system wasn't working for him.
 
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Edmund "Big Ed" Kemper. 6'9", 300 pounds, I.Q 145. Killed his grandparents at 15, and later murdered his hated mother - who was an abusive drunk - thusly:

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On Good Friday of 1973 (20 April), Kemper had planned on waiting for his mother to come home from a party, but he instead fell asleep and was awakened by the sound of her in another room. He entered her room and she was sat up in bed reading a paperback. She noticed him enter the room and said, "I suppose you're going to want to sit up all night and talk now". Kemper replied, "No, good night". before beating her to death with a claw hammer.[18] He then decapitated her and used her severed head for oral sex before finally using it as a dart board. He also cut out her vocal cords, then put them in the garbage disposal. The garbage disposal could not break down the tough vocal cord tissue and ejected the tissue back up into the sink. "That seemed appropriate", he said after his arrest, "as much as she'd bitched and screamed and yelled at me over so many years".
"Excitable boy", they all said....



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Dennis Rader, the "B.T.K" psychopath was an interesting case. I watched footage of his court appearances where he described his crimes like normal people would discuss the weather.
 
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- how many women are interested in this stuff. Women have small brains and large imaginations. The funniest thing about women is they all genuinely think they are different from other women, yet they 99% respond the same way to the same stimulus.
Well, its possible if not probable that ''serial killers'' represent a strongly masculine personality type/psychological makeup, albeit a horribly deformed manifestation of constituent traits, that women find instinctively appealing in some primitive and ruttish way. At least the offenders who are afforded sensational attention by media outlets are presented in this manner.

The multiple murderers who get a lot of ink and media attention often are photogenic types who seem to appreciate the limelight and come off as charismatic. I don't much follow this type of thing but I recall Danny Rolling in the 1990s getting a lot of attention and female news interviewers commenting on the fact that he was ''handsome'' and presumably seemed like a man who had somehow erred in life and pursued a depraved path, etc., the suggestion being that he wasn't a common jailbird. This kind of nonsense makes for good copy. Somebody made the point once that there's a lot of not particularly photogenic or well spoken hardened white trash convict types and inner city nigger gang triggermen who manage to rack up alarmingly high personal body counts yet who don't earn the moniker of ''serial killer'' - nor do they end up on the front page of major newspapers.

The inherent masochism of the feminine character is something lots of learned men have written about - Schopenhauer among them. The serial killer narrative panders to this - sort of a Dracula fantasy but with real gore and detritus in lieu of stage blood.
 
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I posted an interview with him the other day. Flesh was flesh to ol' Kentucky Chucky, he says this directly, while running his 80-year-old sexy hand up the male interviewer's arm.
And the straight interviewer said it felt so good that it spooked him.
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How did the communists treat criminals/crimes like this in their press, I wonder? Do they feel the need to come up with some kind of ideological motive, since they believe all behavior is socially constructed? How could someone living in a worker's paradise off 52 women and children? It seems like the system wasn't working for him.
Solzhenitsyn wrote fairly extensively about Soviet penology and its underlying theories of behavior and punishment.

The Sovs themselves, like the East Germans, never denied that there would be some criminal elements present in societies that had realized or were approaching the realization of socialism - what they claimed was that these people were behavioral outliers who were mentally insane or were incorrigibly anti-social and thus could not or would not adapt to society. In this way of course, the authorities would posit that people who were opposed to the regime were ''criminals'' in the same measure as men who actually committed criminal acts like robbery, rape, homicide, etc.

A sex murderer within the ethical paradigm of Communism is just another of a minority of incorrigibles who refuses to ''adapt'' to Socialism.

Soviet and DDR propaganda was in fact remarkably consistent in most of its tenets - this had a long precedent. Hitler himself remarked that the early KPD (1920 or thereabouts) was very adroit in its propaganda in a way that was unusual for revolutionary movements (nascent or otherwise) originating among workers.
 
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