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Old June 11th, 2016 #1
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John Murray Cuddihy, The Ordeal of Civility

PP 1-14

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ity-pp1-14.mp3 (1:30)

[will be taping this book in coming week]
 
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John Murray Cuddihy, The Ordeal of Civility

PP 1-14

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ity-pp1-14.mp3 (1:30)
pp 15-37 (ch 1-2 on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp15-37.mp3 (1:31)

will be recording this daily coming week (jun 19-26)

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PP 1-14

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ity-pp1-14.mp3 (1:30)
pp 15-37 (ch 1-2 on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp15-37.mp3 (1:31)


pp 38-57 (ch 3-4, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp38-57.mp3 (1:17)

Notes: Jewish Emancipation. ticket of admission to European society is not civil rights but bourgeois rites. podhoretz: association of jewishness with vulgarity and lack of cultivation. where marx has revolution, freud has sublimation. neurosis = ambition unprepared for sacrifice? (rieff). Anno O, first patient, cured of fear of drinking water thru catharsis of speaking about seeing dog drinking out of governess's glass. after she talked about it, fear dissappeared. she had been living off fruit for six weeks, went back to drinking water. cathartic cure of problem brought on by disease of civility - she couldnt mention the dog drinking because it was impolite. psychoanalysis sprang from this: realizing strangled emotions produce neurotic symptoms; these syptoms disappear when the unconscious strangulation reason is made conscious. essentially, freud says bottling up or misdirectly anger leads to neuroticism his talking cure can fix. jew passes from rural poland to polished vienna. he rises economically and professionally but at a mental cost. freud lets him revert to his primary socialization as dirty yid, inside the consulting room. ... collision between non-modernized and modernized peoples - is how cuddihy sees it. but this only one way to look at it, and not the best way, for it doesn't account for how jews see themselves and the goyim, particularly the whiteskins, they move among. cuddihy doesnt pick up enough on jewish hatred of goyim, nor its depth. henry james also a psych, also a rebel, but worded his shocking insights or arguments smoothly, whereas freud deliberately made them rawly offensive to the christian-bourgeois mores of his time. ... ch 4. freud's father had his hat knocked into dirt by goy, did nothing about it. this is the heart of freud's hatred of goyim, and it led him to identify with hannibal's father, who made hannibal swear revenge on rome. "machmores, jud" - step aside in narrow way, mind your manners. manner conceal libido or aggression, the 2 faces of the id. core theory of psychoanalysis comes from freud's attempt to explain why Oedipus Rex had such a hold over him - he generalized the idea of loving mother, wanting to kill father - to humanity. oedipus road scene = scene with freud's father and "enemy of our people." moral parricide. replacement of father with better example. freud refused to close window on train, against angry christians, challenged them to a fight, they didnt accept. he saw moses as gentile because he was angry and would fight.

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John Murray Cuddihy, The Ordeal of Civility

PP 1-14

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ity-pp1-14.mp3 (1:30)
pp 15-37 (ch 1-2 on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp15-37.mp3 (1:31)


pp 38-57 (ch 3-4, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp38-57.mp3 (1:17)

Notes: Jewish Emancipation. ticket of admission to European society is not civil rights but bourgeois rites. podhoretz: association of jewishness with vulgarity and lack of cultivation. where marx has revolution, freud has sublimation. neurosis = ambition unprepared for sacrifice? (rieff). Anno O, first patient, cured of fear of drinking water thru catharsis of speaking about seeing dog drinking out of governess's glass. after she talked about it, fear dissappeared. she had been living off fruit for six weeks, went back to drinking water. cathartic cure of problem brought on by disease of civility - she couldnt mention the dog drinking because it was impolite. psychoanalysis sprang from this: realizing strangled emotions produce neurotic symptoms; these syptoms disappear when the unconscious strangulation reason is made conscious. essentially, freud says bottling up or misdirectly anger leads to neuroticism his talking cure can fix. jew passes from rural poland to polished vienna. he rises economically and professionally but at a mental cost. freud lets him revert to his primary socialization as dirty yid, inside the consulting room. ... collision between non-modernized and modernized peoples - is how cuddihy sees it. but this only one way to look at it, and not the best way, for it doesn't account for how jews see themselves and the goyim, particularly the whiteskins, they move among. cuddihy doesnt pick up enough on jewish hatred of goyim, nor its depth. henry james also a psych, also a rebel, but worded his shocking insights or arguments smoothly, whereas freud deliberately made them rawly offensive to the christian-bourgeois mores of his time. ... ch 4. freud's father had his hat knocked into dirt by goy, did nothing about it. this is the heart of freud's hatred of goyim, and it led him to identify with hannibal's father, who made hannibal swear revenge on rome. "machmores, jud" - step aside in narrow way, mind your manners. manner conceal libido or aggression, the 2 faces of the id. core theory of psychoanalysis comes from freud's attempt to explain why Oedipus Rex had such a hold over him - he generalized the idea of loving mother, wanting to kill father - to humanity. oedipus road scene = scene with freud's father and "enemy of our people." moral parricide. replacement of father with better example. freud refused to close window on train, against angry christians, challenged them to a fight, they didnt accept. he saw moses as gentile because he was angry and would fight.
 
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John Murray Cuddihy, The Ordeal of Civility

PP 1-14

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ity-pp1-14.mp3 (1:30)
pp 15-37 (ch 1-2 on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp15-37.mp3 (1:31)

pp 38-57 (ch 3-4, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp38-57.mp3 (1:17)

Notes: Jewish Emancipation. ticket of admission to European society is not civil rights but bourgeois rites. podhoretz: association of jewishness with vulgarity and lack of cultivation. where marx has revolution, freud has sublimation. neurosis = ambition unprepared for sacrifice? (rieff). Anno O, first patient, cured of fear of drinking water thru catharsis of speaking about seeing dog drinking out of governess's glass. after she talked about it, fear dissappeared. she had been living off fruit for six weeks, went back to drinking water. cathartic cure of problem brought on by disease of civility - she couldnt mention the dog drinking because it was impolite. psychoanalysis sprang from this: realizing strangled emotions produce neurotic symptoms; these syptoms disappear when the unconscious strangulation reason is made conscious. essentially, freud says bottling up or misdirectly anger leads to neuroticism his talking cure can fix. jew passes from rural poland to polished vienna. he rises economically and professionally but at a mental cost. freud lets him revert to his primary socialization as dirty yid, inside the consulting room. ... collision between non-modernized and modernized peoples - is how cuddihy sees it. but this only one way to look at it, and not the best way, for it doesn't account for how jews see themselves and the goyim, particularly the whiteskins, they move among. cuddihy doesnt pick up enough on jewish hatred of goyim, nor its depth. henry james also a psych, also a rebel, but worded his shocking insights or arguments smoothly, whereas freud deliberately made them rawly offensive to the christian-bourgeois mores of his time. ... ch 4. freud's father had his hat knocked into dirt by goy, did nothing about it. this is the heart of freud's hatred of goyim, and it led him to identify with hannibal's father, who made hannibal swear revenge on rome. "machmores, jud" - step aside in narrow way, mind your manners. manner conceal libido or aggression, the 2 faces of the id. core theory of psychoanalysis comes from freud's attempt to explain why Oedipus Rex had such a hold over him - he generalized the idea of loving mother, wanting to kill father - to humanity. oedipus road scene = scene with freud's father and "enemy of our people." moral parricide. replacement of father with better example. freud refused to close window on train, against angry christians, challenged them to a fight, they didnt accept. he saw moses as gentile because he was angry and would fight.

pp 58-84 (ch 5-9, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp58-84.mp3 (1:45)

Notes: 'guilt of shame' concept. feel shame for parents, moral parricide. feel guilty for this shame. jews moving from east, raw, to civilized west. moving up social scale. mixing with gentile culture. feel subjectively torn, shamed over abandoning culture of parents. "shame is an exposure, not a deed." (like guilt). deep woe is produced by jew-gentile encounter, which can only be cleared up by revolution, which leads to rewritten history. (now that jews are on top, they rewrite history to make whites the bad guys). freud turns jewishness from historical "tragedy" into scientific problem. jew's desire for shiksas, or for commingling with goy culture, is also medicalized/psychologized/scienc-ized into universal desire to have sex with mother. jew taboo against intermarriage becomes universal incest desire. ... ch6. jews go from id to ego, but not superego, that's goy. freud wants the benefits of modern science for his people without assimilating to goy culture. and then rips away at fakeness, hypocrisy of goy gentility. he and marx show the "real" drives that are at bottom of goy pretenses economically and sexually. their manners our morals - how the rural looks at urban (and jews were the rural in this sense, coming from shtetl. opposite how we think of them today). jews did not believe protestants had transformed sex into love. "schadchen" turned all human values into money in bargaining for mates - vs protestant minister's uplife. jew view: sex and greed remain what they always were, the bourgeois-christian has not transmuted them into love and fixed prices. ... ch7. sublimation: refining coarse drives into refined ones. feudal court evolved 'love' and 'courtesy.' revolutionary jews call these not self-control or refinement but hypocrisy, and call for revolutionary de-repression, a la marcuse in 60s. (where e. michael jones ties in - linking radical politics, revolution, with sexual craziness). love was goyish invention of church and court. jews looked at sex naturalistically and as business matter (schadchen marriage broker). jews see our culture better than theirs, so they deny it exists and come up with 'scientific' ideas and reasons to destroy it. ch 8. jews against assimilation, and being 'courtly' was almost definition of it. ... ch9 if not for goy jung finding way to freud, psychoanalysis might have been a "jewish national affair." psychoanalysis not a science but a countercultural adversary to bourgeois-christian "ethos" of civility and respectability. jews cant just shuck talmudic thinking like that. they also believe all goyim are latent or active anti-jews. Freud quote: "Basically, all are anti-semites. They are everywhere. Frequently anti-Semitism is latent and hidden, but it is there. naturally there are exceptions*). "* An exception Freud cited here was the Catholic Count Heinrich Coudenhove-Calergi --J.M.C." that's the guy who created the plan to race-mix white europeans out of existence! one of the rare non-anti-semites. how about that. C-C was himself mixed race. cuddihy makes point that jews DEFINE civility as a mask for 'anti-semtism.' they define it as refined 'anti-semitism.' freud saw adler as a sellout - he made the truth polite, and was rewarded by goy society. freud refused to do this. stayed true to his inner yid and yiddishkeit. psychoanalysis is a jewish movement, not a universal science. freud never trusted a goy again after jung split. was what freud said TRUE or merely VULGAR. freud didnt know, says JCM. see freud's work as ethnic attack masquerading as science.


pp 85-103 (ch 10-12, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...y-pp85-103.mp3 (1:27)

Notes: ch10. outward assimilation only; inwardly all these jews feel jewish and tied to other jews. ch11 was freud first to see something or say something? "which was it? scientific discovery or social breakthrough?" freud had idea of sexual etiology of neurosis suggested to him by at least three others. he felt he was regarded as monomaniac by bourgeois society, as obssessed with sex. did he discover something or just speak it publicly? "Freud was openly using resistance to his claims as an index of their nature and merit." (ie, he had discovered the greatest, deepest truths). breuer, charcot, chrobak. ch12. civility is separating man from his ideas, a la christian sinner and sin. freud doesnt do that. apostates are reviled, whether jew (adler) or gentile (jung). modernization is recognizing a responsibility to others, and taking care of appearances. i think it is if good necessary or inevitable, to extent, also feminizing and weakening and time-wasting. it has a cost, in other words. ... galician jews: little grace and no manners
 
Old June 23rd, 2016 #6
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John Murray Cuddihy, The Ordeal of Civility

PP 1-14

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ity-pp1-14.mp3 (1:30)

pp 15-37 (ch 1-2 on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp15-37.mp3 (1:31)

pp 38-57 (ch 3-4, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp38-57.mp3 (1:17)

pp 58-84 (ch 5-9, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp58-84.mp3 (1:45)

pp 85-103 (ch 10-12, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...y-pp85-103.mp3 (1:27)
pp 104-116 (ch 13, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp104-116.mp3 (50m)

Notes: ch13. irish parallel. a wilderness in the clearing - for jews, the situation - analyst room. for joyce, the interior monologue, free from restrictions of proper novel. modernity involves compromise. you assimilate, but with understanding of what you are giving up, and never go all the way to becoming a true goy. freud mediated yid-id and goy-superego. compromise. no illusions. marxists tried to bring about social change - restore the shtetl via communism. wilhelm reich tried to join marxism and freudianism, both diaspora ideologies for modernizing jews. marxists kicked him out, he went to US. reich galician jew parvenu. considered himself 'freud unbound,' releasing the political dynamite in liberal-compromising freud's doctrines. charles reich was successor. greening of america. conversation as truth killer. no real relationships (goyish cocktail party). everything at level of sociability. character-armor. character analysis. politeness as defense. always behind it critical views. freud is all talking. reich goes after the body muscles that are armored defenses. reich II said there are three layers: the outside polite social layer, the real nasty drives underneath, and the wonderful, unconcious natural man at base. justification for pushing free-love society, with hidden motive of destroying aryan society by doing that - in name of liberation. e. michael jones makes much of charles reich in his works. "As Freud and Herzl before him, Reich sees Europe's civility and its bourgeois-Christian restraint as a hypocritical facade disguising anti-Semitism." basis of 'Authoritarian Personality' - goy society must be sexualized to destroy this personality, empower jews for evermore. Herzl said gentiles come in only two forms: covert and overt anti-semites. jews hated the polite surface of western society, seeing it as nothing, as hypocritical, yet somehow as everything. The insincts were Reich's proletariat needed to be liberated from repression of polite fakery. various layers: chickenshit (hello, how are you), elephantshit (rationalizing, philosophy), death layer, then authentic layer - grief, orgasm, anger, joy. (Perls). ... civility as censorship. link between overthrowing property and outraging propriety.
 
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John Murray Cuddihy, The Ordeal of Civility

PP 1-14

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ity-pp1-14.mp3 (1:30)

pp 15-37 (ch 1-2 on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp15-37.mp3 (1:31)

pp 38-57 (ch 3-4, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp38-57.mp3 (1:17)

pp 58-84 (ch 5-9, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp58-84.mp3 (1:45)

pp 85-103 (ch 10-12, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...y-pp85-103.mp3 (1:27)

pp 104-116 (ch 13, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp104-116.mp3 (50m)

pp 117-150 (ch 14-17, on marx)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp117-150.mp3 (2:00)

Notes: notion of crude vs refined is central to marx's thought. marx rejected father's way of conversion, being more serious intellectually and coarser. "Coarseness reveals; vulgarity conceals" --EM Forster. marx's first article was on censorship. 1843. marx wanted to go directly to the truth, not worry about form, which the prussian censorship law demanded - "serious" and "restrained." bourgeois society cares about form not content. cares not about nouns but about adverbs. how you do something is most important. bourgeois values sociability over truth. marx rejected this. prussia demands "prior" restraint - on his manners and style, not content. prior restraint. middle class triumph was bringing obsession into disrepute. no fanaticism! moderation. reasonable tones. compromise. opposite of radical. appearances. propriety. restraint. decorum. respectability. - how these can be used against white man if evil jew takes power! he will use them to enforce and hide his antiwhite politics! ... jews are not supposed to "tell truth in hostile environment" - ie, around or to goyim. about internal jew beliefs and behavior. marx was airing jews' dirty laundry, and he was vulgar, a goysin. double pariah. marx resigned editorship of rheinische zeitung, disgusted with censorship.published On the Jewish Question. paris, 1844. away from prussian censorship. awasy from battles over public propriety. beatrice potter (fabian mrs sidney webb) see as symptom of jewish social deficiency (lack of social morality; obeys law but nothing higher), marx turns into a general deficiency of bourgeois capitalism. marx's primal scene. jew ricardo - describing behavior not of man but of jews in whitechapel. the cash nexus (marx) all that mattered. untethered from any social ethic, just money chasing. purely contractual. purely utilitarian. maurice samuel agreed with marx: all just cover, just appearances over savage economic war. civilities are a game goyim play, and one jews dont understand beyond dismissing as hypocritical. ... Dohm and idea of Verbesserung - jews needed civic improvement, in manners, morals, etc. ... maimon and the princess who would kindle jew stove in future, according to dad. "world more attractive" - jews could see and not deny and only religiously exclaim the peculiar superiority of the gentile societies they came among. lachrymose historiography of the jews. "you did it to us." jews go from needing civic betterment (dohm) to needing emancipation, which hints they were slaves, and absolves them of all guilt or need to improve, lays blame on goyim.

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John Murray Cuddihy, The Ordeal of Civility

PP 1-14

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ity-pp1-14.mp3 (1:30)

pp 15-37 (ch 1-2 on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp15-37.mp3 (1:31)

pp 38-57 (ch 3-4, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp38-57.mp3 (1:17)

pp 58-84 (ch 5-9, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp58-84.mp3 (1:45)

pp 85-103 (ch 10-12, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...y-pp85-103.mp3 (1:27)

pp 104-116 (ch 13, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp104-116.mp3 (50m)

pp 117-150 (ch 14-17, on marx)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp117-150.mp3 (2:00)
pp 151-162 (ch 18, on levi-strauss)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp151-162.mp3 (58m)

Notes: says l-strauss is to anthro as freud to psychiatry and marx to sociology, one of the 'founding patriarchs' of jew intellectual culture in diaspora. "structural anthropology is the last of the classic ideological 'remedies' for the cultural status wound inflicted on intellectual Jewry by its emancipation into the West." emile durkheim. father of scientific sociology (son of rabbis), wrote about modernization process - from tribal to modern civil societies. problem is "wound in the heart." come up with theory to explain or justify why judaism looks ugly and backward vs west. levi-strauss was in "pupillary succession" to marx (his student). a fully excited marxist, he was. promoting an ahistorical structuralism, like marx rejecting experience. "structuralism...is an ideology of subcultural despair" an uneasy mix of cognitive relativism and ethical absolutism. secret of marx's appeal is "skeptical fanaticism" (polanyi). it is a "conceit" (as per literary use), "yoking together" positivism and idealism. other ways of putting it: normative and cognitive are related. "the fire and the rose are one." secular jew intellectuals of modernity were skeptical AND fanatical, first observed jean-richard bloch. Frankfurt school jews expressly denied/disclaimed sociology-of-knowledge approaches to explaining what they were up (jews pushing jewish agenda, which = anti-white) and insisted they were universalists and unattached. jew weil, funder, in scores of letters tried to get people NOT to write about the jew agenda behind Frankfurt. martin jay wrote "Anti-Semitism and the Weimar Left" (Midstream 20, no. 1, January 1974). horkheimer didnt follow his father into manufacturing. he married father's gentile secretary. parents more bothered by his marrying a gentile than becoming a revolutionary. stanley rothman: "What better way to end one's marginality than by undermining the categories that define one as marginal?" l-s created structuralism, an ideology. subversive at home, conformist abroad. everything the natives do is justified, everything we do is wrong. from raw naked to cooked clothed. he relativized/contrasted savages knowing how to live, with our merely knowing how to behave (savoir-vivre vs savoire-faire). the savage is defiled internally whereas the West says "hell is others." the savage is better. jesus said man is not defiled by what he eats (what goes INTO his mouth) but by what he says (what comes OUT OF his mouth - from his depraved heart). so lot of the noble savage and gaia gunk comes from levi-strauss. anecdote is that his grandfather, rabbi of versailles, had long sheet poster in dining room warning kids to chew to digest properly - food (from outside) can be threatening. l-s's base claim is "there are no superior societies" (sanche de gramont). judaism inherently totalitarian, much aimed at preventing impurity arriving from outside (kosher laws), making it an "inferior religion" as even jew durkheim said. marx: christianity is the sublime thought of judaism, and judaism is the vulgar practical application of christianity.

[will finish Ordeal this week, 4 segments left, should do one a day]

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John Murray Cuddihy, The Ordeal of Civility

PP 1-14

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ity-pp1-14.mp3 (1:30)

pp 15-37 (ch 1-2 on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp15-37.mp3 (1:31)

pp 38-57 (ch 3-4, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp38-57.mp3 (1:17)

pp 58-84 (ch 5-9, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp58-84.mp3 (1:45)

pp 85-103 (ch 10-12, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...y-pp85-103.mp3 (1:27)

pp 104-116 (ch 13, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp104-116.mp3 (50m)

pp 117-150 (ch 14-17, on marx)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp117-150.mp3 (2:00)

pp 151-162 (ch 18, on levi-strauss)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp151-162.mp3 (58m)
pp 163-186 (ch 19-20, jew & irish, lachrymose history ideology)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp163-186.mp3 (1:24)

Notes: ch 19. jews and irish. latecomers to modernization. atimia = disesteem felt by undeveloped nations enterining the modernization-stratification system the more advanced already formed. ostjude were "last community to emerge from Middle Ages," said isaiah berlin. formed parishes, papers, yeshivas, lower east side. dioceses. irish saw americanism as heresy from rome. attribution war: all agree jews act shitty (pre-emancipation). what effect will emancipating them have? sunlight clean them up? or letting them out of jail to run wild? pro/anti religious/enlightenment people were on both sides of this question. some jews blamed "persecutions" for why their community acted so rottenly. all agreed jews in shtetl were backward and nasty - but WHY was not clear and argued over. so it is with all modernizing peoples. blame themselves or the colonizer. 'delayed modernization' is painful, and marxism appeals to subcultures undergoing it. ideology as defense against culture shock - yr not of the majority. it colonized you or is mainstream culture you're sidestream to. you must justify its apparent superiority. court jews didnt want to fit in. but next generation of political intellectuals did or was ambivalent. eventually from elites wanting some participation w the colonizers you get to full blown nationalism. these ideologies to justify jew-backwardness were many: marxism, zionism. hebraism - yes we're worse, but we're morally purer. everything you have is from us and our bible. "Marxist ideology...is the mirror opposite: a 'progressive' manifest content is the carrier of a premodern, "secret" latent content appealing to the "wholeness hunger" endemic in modern man." (cuddihy). ch20. edward shills: the intellectual between tradition and modernity: the indian situation. 19th century was century of liberation. "In France, as in Germany, the fundamental factual assumption of the Emancipation debate -- the underdeveloped state of the Jewish communities -- was never itself in question." (p.176). jews were a backward and barbarous people. were these characteristics due to "persecution" or were they innate? obviously time has proved they were innate. jews and apologists invented "lachrymose" history to justify springing the kikes. ie, bogus history of persecution. their cultural backwardness will disappear if we let them out of jail and quit "persecuting" them. "The 'lachrymose' ideology of Jewish history was created by Jewish intellectuals and their Gentile allies to justify the civic emancipation of Jews to the Gentile community." ALL jew ideologists of 19th centuries used this bullshit persecution lie to explain anything unseemly about jew culture. before, they had said they were degraded because they had turned from god, but after Emancipation, all blame shifted to the hated goyim. bricolage vs seamless robe: can we pick and choose elements of modernity, or is it all one package? modernity is interdependence? the "brutal bargain" - the jew gets more than he bargained for in emancipation. it's not as easy as picking and choosing, trying to be equal in public and jew in private. jew hebraists claimed "superior moral heritage" to account for their backwardness. "moralistic style" of modern oppositional intelligentsia.also found in provincial US, in cooper, twain, james - asserting backward provincial USA's moral superiority to more cultivated cultured Europe.
 
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PP 1-14

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ity-pp1-14.mp3 (1:30)

pp 15-37 (ch 1-2 on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp15-37.mp3 (1:31)

pp 38-57 (ch 3-4, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp38-57.mp3 (1:17)

pp 58-84 (ch 5-9, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp58-84.mp3 (1:45)

pp 85-103 (ch 10-12, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...y-pp85-103.mp3 (1:27)

pp 104-116 (ch 13, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp104-116.mp3 (50m)

pp 117-150 (ch 14-17, on marx)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp117-150.mp3 (2:00)

pp 151-162 (ch 18, on levi-strauss)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp151-162.mp3 (58m)

pp 163-186 (ch 19-20, jew & irish, lachrymose history ideology)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp163-186.mp3 (1:24)

pp 187-202 (ch 21, 2 (((hoffmans))) )

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp187-202.mp3 (51m)

Notes: ch 21. rights and rites. does bourgeois civility precede political rights? is decorum tied to the modern bourgeois state? jew radical hoffman affected to find decorum repression. are democratic and judical processes "scams"? hoffman v hoffman, the assimilated and the ostjudge, with hatred for each other's choice. jew krassner, The Realist. formation of YIP youth intl party. dirty jews know the clean jews arent truly assimilated to high WASP ways, and this is their achilles heel. counterculture arises to threaten decorum, all led by radical dirty jews. another example - eastern jews in chicago had schadenfreude over it being rich smart german jews leopold and loeb busted for nasty murder. "When decorum is repression, the only dignity that free men have is to speak out." --Abbie Hoffman. people come to associate rights with acting a certain way. is this how it is? should be? are "all civil rights alienable with the non-performance of civic rites"? ie, do you lose rights if you're not polite? so it works thru the system - is there anything you can do to forfeit rights? the answer is yes. if you bully and insult the court, the Supreme Court says the judge is justified in taking your rights away. CIVILITY is the absolute - rights are relative to your performance of minimum acceptable behavior. this had not been made overt, in question or answer, until these radical jews made an issue of it. "The Supreme Court was putting America on notice that the political culture of civility -- the civic culture -- was a functional prerequisite to the working of its democratic infrastructures." (cuddihy, p. 201). in the end, you have to act right, whether you believe it internally or not, for the system to work. puritans decided this at synod in 1662.
 
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John Murray Cuddihy, The Ordeal of Civility

PP 1-14

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ity-pp1-14.mp3 (1:30)

pp 15-37 (ch 1-2 on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp15-37.mp3 (1:31)

pp 38-57 (ch 3-4, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp38-57.mp3 (1:17)

pp 58-84 (ch 5-9, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp58-84.mp3 (1:45)

pp 85-103 (ch 10-12, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...y-pp85-103.mp3 (1:27)

pp 104-116 (ch 13, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp104-116.mp3 (50m)

pp 117-150 (ch 14-17, on marx)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp117-150.mp3 (2:00)

pp 151-162 (ch 18, on levi-strauss)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp151-162.mp3 (58m)

pp 163-186 (ch 19-20, jew & irish, lachrymose history ideology)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp163-186.mp3 (1:24)

pp 187-202 (ch 21, 2 (((hoffmans))) )

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp187-202.mp3 (51m)
pp 203-222 (ch 22, black-jew struggle for #1 victim status)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp203-222.mp3 (1:18)

Notes: ch 22. bernard malamud. christian themes, but characters are jews. lots of prizes and love. claiming for jews that which is universal (whereas jew faults are universalized). jews moved to suburbs after war. new ethnic solidarity justification required - judaism as religion - conservative judaism. new sentimental literary myth gained acceptance in American fiction postWWII. jews reinventing their history, yet again. jew-as-Christ motiv in fiction. do americans want this? do christians? but already publishing/media are thoroughly jewed milieu, by mid-century. cuddihy doesn't account for this, nor give the innocent reader any idea that jews quite viciously suppress all criticism wherever they can, so that lothrop stoddard/madison grant could barely get out an honest word of race anthropology BEFORE 1920. you would have no idea from cuddihy that worshipping fictional jews was anything but an american choice - rather than something jews foisted on him thru all mass channels. ... jews blacks competing over who is the real victim. no hint cuddihy grasps jews use black politically to destroy white nations. christianity elevated the Victim to #1 status, jews and blacks contend for it. malamud The Tenants. saul bellow. jews and others feel the pain involved adjusting to an anglo form like the novel. expressing emotions, for one. struggle to cope with Anglo societal and literary forms. memories of eastern europe. need to drive off any black pretenders to Ultimate Victim status. bellow. malamud. The Tenants. name check most mid-century liberal/jew critics, pre-neocons and their organs such as Partisan Review.
 
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John Murray Cuddihy, The Ordeal of Civility

PP 1-14

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ity-pp1-14.mp3 (1:30)

pp 15-37 (ch 1-2 on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp15-37.mp3 (1:31)

pp 38-57 (ch 3-4, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp38-57.mp3 (1:17)

pp 58-84 (ch 5-9, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ty-pp58-84.mp3 (1:45)

pp 85-103 (ch 10-12, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...y-pp85-103.mp3 (1:27)

pp 104-116 (ch 13, on freud)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp104-116.mp3 (50m)

pp 117-150 (ch 14-17, on marx)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp117-150.mp3 (2:00)

pp 151-162 (ch 18, on levi-strauss)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp151-162.mp3 (58m)

pp 163-186 (ch 19-20, jew & irish, lachrymose history ideology)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp163-186.mp3 (1:24)

pp 187-202 (ch 21, 2 (((hoffmans))) )

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp187-202.mp3 (51m)

pp 203-222 (ch 22, black-jew struggle for #1 victim status)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...-pp203-222.mp3 (1:18)

pp 223-238 (ch 23, conclusion - 3 findings)

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...23-238-END.mp3 (1:02)

Notes: ch 23. CONCLUSION. 11th or diaspora commandment: thou shalt not reveal in-group secrets to the goyim. battle between BOURGEOIS jews (assimilation, status seeking, money chasing) and jew INTELLECTUALS. they CODE their criticism of fellow jews. what they dislike transmutes into GENERAL CRITICISM of advanced western capitalist culture. M&M Phenomenon. Miami vs Moscow. vulgar ostentation of lower east side manhattan jews in south florida vs refined intellectual yids spiritually oriented to moscow (communism). dont need civility when living among yr fellow jews. do need it when you're living among goyim. ritual competence. no distinction in jew history between fiction and history (!). "what is a jewish intellectual in the first place but a person who pretends to have forgotten his yiddish" (rosenberg). 'judeo-christian': "factitious phrase with its facile hyphen is part of...the cultural and theological illiteracy of our times." marx, freud, levi-strauss are great implacable jews exhibiting a principled resistance to the whole western "thing." or they're just white-haters trying to destroy white society. cuddihy never discusses that point. it's all about them fitting in or feeling comfortable. cuddihy has covered how west is experienced by "more profound jews". the west is an attractive nuisance, in legal terms - a "standing temptation" to leave their religion and become part of universal civilized mass. 2) rudeness and crudeness are part of jew religion. no symptoms of something. but essences of judaism. Einstein read Emily Post for laughs - the goy world of civility is utterly foreign and funny to the jew, and he experiences its strictures as torture. a sarah silverman is produced by the race called jews in the same way a spider spins a web. they are loathe to leave their crudeness and rudeness behind for goyish tact and civility because they dont trust these, they are not part of their tradition-race-religion-cult-history-experience. 3) modernity is wasp-calvinist syntonic - they alone were "present at the creation." bonhoeffer civility uber alles. last sermon in prison, worried about offending his neighbor, soviet officer.

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