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Old November 12th, 2008 #1
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A Warning About The "Gold Is Money", Ron Paul Revolution, Give Obama a Chance Crowd
Tuesday, 11 November 2008 14:41 Christopher Jon Bjerknes
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I have been following the "alternative media" for a few years now. I noticed during the illegal Israeli attack on Lebanon that many talk show hosts and other notable personalities in the "alternative media" failed to seize on the opportunity to crush Zionism that the Jewish war against their Arab neighbors provided. Instead of covering this war as it should have been covered, they staged soap opera infighting, promoted hoax stories about the Pentagon on 9/11, and generally spewed out defeatist and sophistical crap ad nauseam. Callers to these shows noticed the same effect I was noticing and pleaded with the hosts to stop doing what they were doing and address the war.

I was a guest on a few of these programs and noticed that the hosts were not eager to have me expose the treachery of figures like Siniora and other traitors to the Arabs who were financiers tied to World Jewry. They also did not want me to talk about solutions to the problems in the Middle East, nor the Israeli attempts to gin up a civil war among the Palestinians, which I wrote about long before it happened, or the attempts to pit Arabs against the Iranians on the side of the Israelis on the false promise that Israelis would repay the favor by forming a Palestinian State. I also noticed that they did not want me talking about the Jewish genocide of Armenian Christians. Some of these hosts later plagiarized my work in an attempt to steal my thunder, embarrass the Armenian Community, and intimidate the Armenians with the threat of FEMA camps should they continue to expose the Jewish involvement in the Armenian Genocide.

Almost all of these front groups and operatives continually push gold and silver, even those who now plagiarize my criticisms of Ron Paul. They copy my work in order to steal my thunder and mix my arguments with their dung. They continually flip flop on these issues and constantly reinvent themselves so as to create confusion and disgust in the Anti-Zionist Movement.

The most obvious agents of Jewry are those who have consistently promoted the lie that only gold is money, that Ron Paul is our savior, and that we should today give Barack Obama a chance to prove himself. Less obvious are those who plagiarize my work, while attacking me for saying the things they later copy. These chameleons reveal themselves as agents of World Jewry by the distracting fights they stage at crucial points in our struggle against World Jewry, and by their promotion of terrorism and violence, as well as their morphing behavior, as they attempt to infiltrate and discredit group after group in their search for psychopaths who will follow their advice and discredit us all by some stupid act or series of acts. One of these is a mallato, a Mischling, who misrepresents Nazi ideology so as to make it appear that he too can be a Nazi. He also promotes sophistical and historically inaccurate accounts to deny the fact that the Nazis were servants of the Zionist Jews.

Most telling is the quiet in some quarters following the election of Barack Obama, which reminds me of the silence and misinformation during the Lebanon War. Some of these operatives go so far as to ask us to give Obama a chance at a time when we should be doing everything we can to discredit Obama in the eyes of the public.

I attribute their behavior to the fact that the Jews want to make Obama a popular president so that he will win domestic and foreign support for new wars, but also to the fact that these agents of the Jewish gold merchants want Obama to run us deeply into debts which they hope will crash our currency, and which they hope to someday have repaid in gold and all the rest of our assets.

In order for the Jewish usury system to be effective, the Jews need a puppet leader who will run up the debts of the nation. In Europe, the Jewish elite intermarried into the aristocracy to subvert it and bring nations into debt through wars of their making and through extravagant spending on castles and the like, which they financed and into which projects they talked the leaders or into which they forced them.

The Jews have set up Obama to be the stereotypical spend thrift black. In this way, the Jews will increase the debts of America to the breaking point, and then be able to scapegoat blacks for their crimes, relying on stereotypes the Jews promote in their media. The Jewish controlled racists will then have Americans clamoring for attacks on blacks, just as the Jews had them clamor for Ron Paul for President of the United States. The Jews will use blacks and then pit whites against them, as the Jews walk away with all the wealth of America.



Anyone who has been spreading the old Jewish bankers' line that gold is "real money" and/or "sound money" is suspect. Those who are begging us to buy gold and silver and are spreading the lie that these metals are difficult to purchase is also highly suspect. Those who tried to sell us on Ron Paul reach the next level suspicion, one might say a level of high alert. Most obviously tools of the Jewish bankers are those who have been pushing gold as money, Ron Paul and who now back Obama. I believe Obama is their man, and they want him to run us off the cliff into an abyss of debt so endlessly deep that they can completely destroy our financial system and economy with Jewish usury enabled by a Jewish puppet President, and leave us completely at their mercy when it comes time to replace the system.

Yuri Lina published a very readable and interesting article entitled "The Fight Against Usury" in The Barnes Review, Volume 10, Number 5, (September/October 2004), pp. 8-15; which elucidates the dangers of the Jewish bankers' gold standard system. Lina has elsewhere described how the Nazis grew the German economy by abandoning the gold standard, for example in his book Architects of Deception at pages 384-386.

We need to take over the audience of the Jewish owned "alternative media", which is trying to trick us into clamoring for a gold standard, and which undermines every anti-Zionist effort we make, and which pushes the Jewish agenda on us as if it were anti-Zionism. Notice how they never get anywhere. It is by design. Notice how at key moments they fail to address key issues and attempt to lead us down the wrong path and try to make us appear as ridiculous as they are. It is by design.

I would very much like to interview Yuri Lina and discuss economic and financial issues with him, as well as the role organized Jewry (he tends to call them "Freemasons") played in the rise of Hitler, Trotsky, Lenin and Stalin. If anyone can facilitate correspondence between the two of us, I would be most grateful.

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One thing I know, those bank notes printed from the fed aren't money, they are coupons.
 
Old November 13th, 2008 #3
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Some of these hosts later plagiarized my work in an attempt to steal my thunder, embarrass the Armenian Community, and intimidate the Armenians with the threat of FEMA camps should they continue to expose the Jewish involvement in the Armenian Genocide.
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Old November 13th, 2008 #4
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All my life, pawn shops and others have advertised We Buy Old Gold. Now they advertise on television and the Internet. They've driven the price down and held it down during the buying-it-up cycle and will need demand to sell it at a profit-- a sell-it cycle. However, that does not invalidate the idea that something should back "money" other than confidence in the system-- a "con" game-- so called fractional reserve banking. There is no exit from the current system without considerably more war than we are experiencing currently. America, one of the richest nations in the world in natural resources, is involved in wars because she is indebted to moneychangers: He who pays the piper calls the tune. "On paper," America is now the greatest debtor nation in the world. Hitler apparently understood the only way out, counted the cost, and took his best shot.

If you read Ron Paul's book, you can't help but see that he is arguably the most insightful man to run for President since Jefferson. However, people tend to get the leaders they deserve and America's collective character is undeserving of such men. Is Ron Paul correct about everything? I don't think so. But he is orders of magnitude above any other candidate in my lifetime.

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If you read Ron Paul's book, you can't help but see that he is arguably the most insightful man to run for President since Jefferson. However, people tend to get the leaders they deserve and America's collective character is undeserving of such men. Is Ron Paul correct about everything? I don't think so. But he is orders of magnitude above any other candidate in my lifetime.
I think Ron Paul showed what a grass roots campaign can do, he just had more support outside the US than in it.
I also think the Ron Paul fallout is a great example of why America is screwed and probably will always be. I thought it was a pathetic shame to see David Duke and Don Black have some message at the bottom of stormfront about what Ron Paul has to do to win. It's a good insight into the mind of the average american and how easily influenced they are.

I've recently started thinking about the Libertarian party and how it could be America's last hope. It has the potential to make inroads with the white masses, and it's actually been around long enough too. I just saw someone reading a Libertarian book on the bus, his opionion of Ron Paul was that he was a sell out to interested in Capitalism.

I think with Obama as president and the 4 years ahead waiting, the libertarian party would probably be the best bet for serious people looking to get involved in actual politics, as delusions of Rahowa is getting lame already.
 
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One thing I know, those bank notes printed from the fed aren't money, they are coupons.
They are a debt note. They represent the debt that the U.S. owes the Federal Reserve Bank. A coupon has some value while a Federal Reserve Note is pure debt.
 
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They are a debt note. They represent the debt that the U.S. owes the Federal Reserve Bank. A coupon has some value while a Federal Reserve Note is pure debt.
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All my life, pawn shops and others have advertised We Buy Old Gold. Now they advertise on television and the Internet. They've driven the price down and held it down during the buying-it-up cycle and will need demand to sell it at a profit-- a sell-it cycle. However, that does not invalidate the idea that something should back "money" other than confidence in the system-- a "con" game-- so called fractional reserve banking. There is no exit from the current system without considerably more war than we are experiencing currently.

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There exists a profound misunderstanding of the gold standard among anti-zionists. Again and again one reads how gold is the tool of the Jewish bankers, how gold strangles economic growth by providing insufficient liquidity and how money and its value are determined by the work of a people and the trust they have in their government. This misunderstanding is so omnipresent in anti-zionist circles that it is time to dispel the confusion and the fallacies.

Support for the gold standard has existed throughout the world long before the rise of Jewish bankers and modern capitalism. The ancient world was well acquainted with the benefits of monetary stability. The Roman economy flourished before the emperors started debasing the coinage. The successor empire, the East Roman Empire or Byzantine, flourished for a thousand years based on the gold solidus, which was accepted everywhere in the ancient world for its stable value. The French emperor, Napoleon Bonaparte, although no friend of the Jews, always paid his soldiers and suppliers in gold. He had the example of the fiat inflation of John Law before him. (Those who espouse economic fallacies should learn from the example of Law, who made exactly the arguments they do. Law preached that money needed to flow freely through the economy to create prosperity. Money would always have value because it was guaranteed by the French crown. All those who warned of the dangers of inflation were scaremongers to be disregarded. A few short years later the printing presses of His Majesty, King Louis, had reduced the value of French money to zero.) Based on these historical examples, it is clear that support of the gold standard in no way implies support of the Jews. In fact, it was the Jews who took the United States off the gold standard. It was FDR, surrounded by a cabal of Jews, who demonetized the currency of the U.S. and who made it illegal for U.S. citizens to hold gold. Jews are not opposed to gold per se. They merely want themselves to have the gold while the citizens hold the worthless paper.

Advocates of the gold standard, like Ron Paul, are sometimes denounced by the editor of Ziopedia and Mr. Christopher Jan Bjerknes as Zionist or CIA agents. But this is completely unsupportable. Representative Paul is acutely aware of malignant Zionist influence. He has repeatedly called for a more “even handed” U.S. approach to the Middle East. He does not take on the Zionists directly because he justifiably fears their power. One can hardly blame him. A notable example of a man who is both anti-zionist and pro-gold is Lawrence Patterson, the editor of “Criminal Politics” magazine. Anyone who reads Mr. Patterson’s publication can tell that he is extremely well informed on the Synagogue of Satan. He is also forthrightly a practicing Christian. But he will not endorse economic fallacies anymore than Voltaire.

This essay is not the place to set out the workings of the gold standard. That has already been done by this author in other essays published on Ziopedia. The purpose of this essay is solely to demonstrate that it is possible to be both pro-gold and anti-zionist. Opposition to the Zionist international should not translate into support for long exploded fallacies.

The author is a regular contributor to ZioPedia.

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They are a debt note. They represent the debt that the U.S. owes the Federal Reserve Bank. A coupon has some value while a Federal Reserve Note is pure debt.
More like a zero interest bond that never matures.
 
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When things go to hell what good will gold and silver be? If you can't buy anything to eat with it, then it's as useless as paper money.
 
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Ron Paul often lies. Like most Jewish controlled gold bugs, his arguments are based on falsehoods and "false dilemmas".

Beginning at 4 minutes, 57 seconds, into above YouTube video, Ron Paul proposes the false dilemma that Americans will be forced to choose between his proposal for a private gold standard currency, or an international currency:

Paul deliberately seeks to mislead his audience, whom he has provoked into a state of panic, into believing there are no other alternative replacements for our present system than a private gold standard currency, or an international currency, when in fact there are far better alternatives to those two options which he offers.

At other points in his presentation, Paul objects to Nixon's actions in 1971 to remove the international gold backing from our currency. Paul does not state what he would have preferred Nixon have done instead, and ignores the crisis which caused Nixon to take the actions which he did. If Nixon had not taken the action that he did, then the United States of America would have been forced to hand over all of our gold reserves to foreign nations. Evidently Ron Paul would have preferred it if the US had given over all of its gold to other nations and been left without currency of any kind.

Paul also fails to explain how we could have experienced the growth which we experienced since 1971 without the flexibility to increase the money supply a paper money system offers. Had we been on his gold system, our economy would have stagnated and then dived into a deep and unfathomable depression due to the lack of money for credit and growth. In addition the Jews would have had the means to bury us at any time by merely holding gold and cutting off our money supply and credit.

Paul is forced to admit that the present system, even with its choking and unnecessary yoke of debt, has worked well for us, but argues that its present crash was inevitable without addressing the real reasons why the dollar is presently crashing, which is because of Jewish banking and equities corruption, Jewish war, Jewish usury and the Jewish manufactured trade imbalance. The currency system would not be crashing if it were not for these Jewish manufactured crises. Had the currency system been properly maintained and unhitched from Jewish usury, it would be working fabulously. The paper nature of the currency is not at fault, rather the Jewish corruption is at fault, which fact Paul conceals and never addresses, thereby proving himself to be an agent of the Jews.

Paul lies and confuses the Jewish bankers system of debt based paper money with a true fiat system which would carry no debt. Why doesn't Paul call for the prosecution of the Jewish bankers?

The options Ron Paul leaves off the table are telling. We have the option to identify World Jewry as the cause of our problems. We have the option of prosecuting the Jewish bankers and Jewish corrupters and suing them in civil suit. We have the option of removing debt from the issuance of paper currency and the option of retiring currency when necessary to stabilize prices. But instead of addressing these options, Ron Paul lies and after whipping us into a panic offers us but two options, both of which favor his Jewish banker friends.

From whence cometh Ron Paul's Jewish lies and Jewish philosophies? From the Jewess Ayn Rand who was an agent of "The Trust", the controlled Jewish opposition to Communism, and from Ludwig Von Mises and Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi, who worked for Rothschild and Warburg and instigated the idea of a European Union, the dilution and ultimate destruction of the Caucasian race, and the promotion of the Jewish race as if the natural masters of the sub-human Goyim. Those are Ron Paul's Jewish roots and he feeds off of them like the poison fruit that he is.

Another example of the same gold bug false dilemma appears in G. Edward Griffin's film The Capitalist Conspiracy: An Inside View of International Banking, starting at 40 minutes, 40 seconds in, where Griffin falsely claims we must choose between a bimetallic currency or a World currency. Like Paul, he confuses a debt-based paper money system with a purely fiat money system, in that Griffin misidentifies the "root of the evil" of our present currency as the notion that our money is created out of nothing, which is, in fact, the strength of the fiat system and the means by which we can grow our economy and eliminate taxes. It is telling that the gold bugs falsely claim that the greatest benefit of a fiat currency is its worst shortcoming.

The true problems with our present system are fractional reserve banking, usury, the debt basis of the currency, and the overproduction of currency to fund the unnecessary debt and the unnecessary Jewish wars, all of which problems are easily solved. Griffin poses the false premise that the same people will control the system if we transfer the powers of the Federal Reserve System to the Federal Government. Obviously, the solution to that problem is to prosecute and sue the Jewish bankers. Those who fail to offer up this obvious solution are suspect.

Griffin does not want us to identify Jewry as the problem they are. He does not want us to recognize that Jewry and Judaism are the source of "the conspiracy" and that in order to solve the problem we must identify the Jews as the problem. Griffin demonstrates that he is an apologist for World Jewry, when at 38 minutes, 15 seconds into his film, Griffin quotes Winston Churchill without mentioning the fact that Churchill was referring directly to "International Jews" as the source of "this world-wide conspiracy". Griffin avoids any mention of the fact that Churchill's words were directed at the danger Jews posed to humanity. Churchill's article from which Griffin surgically removed the word "Jew" when selectively quoting it, appears in full in my book The Manufacture and Sale of Saint Einstein in chapter 7, at pages 1584-1588.

The fallacies and falsehoods in Paul's and Griffin's statements are so numerous as to make it a highly laborious task to address them all. I hope that those I have here addressed will suffice to defeat the gold bugs' sophistry.

By misdirecting us to but two options which favor the Jewish bankers, the gold bugs prevent us from identifying the real problems and their source, and from proposing the proper solutions. Such is the nature of controlled opposition.

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Gods, are we still stuck on this irrelevant mediocrity, this multi-term hack?
Geezus, even "Muh Dik" Mazzone has pretty much gotten over his obsessive man crush on this suck-butt!
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Gods, are we still stuck on this irrelevant mediocrity, this multi-term hack?
Geezus, even "Muh Dik" Mazzone has pretty much gotten over his obsessive man crush on this suck-butt!

I never supported Ron Paul, I wouldn't say anybody's stuck on him, it's simply posting relevant articles about politics rather than trolling and flaming....
 
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No offense, Adi18.
I think I'm just suffering from RP fatigue, nothing to do with you.
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No offense, Adi18.
I think I'm just suffering from RP fatigue, nothing to do with you.
Don't worry Comrade, we weren't exposed to RP in Canada like you were.
The funniest thing I ever saw was actually a comment by Wolf Blitzer on CNN, it was "Ron Paul with 10% in South Dakota, not that anyone cares...."

Ron has to be exposed for what he is, I"m not saying I'm an RP expert, but I never got a "leader" feeling from him. He was amusing on the Steven Colbert show though, only because Stephen Colbert is a funny guy and creates funny moments. I never jumped on the Ron Paul bandwagon, but it was sad to see how quickly everybody deserted him and a good example of why we need to start to unify if were going to ever achieve any goals politically.
 
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Ron Paul collapsed because of jewsmedia accusations of "racism."
When Paul could no longer be reasonably ignored, the jewsmedia "exposed" his old newsletters in which he (or writer Lew Rockwell) made perfectly valid and defensible statements against black "Welfare Queens," etc.
As a result, all the white lefty types dropped Paul like a hot potato - and all the WN types dropped Paul for backpedaling and apologizing. That's what really made his campaign implode.
All jews have to do is breathe the word "racism," and Whites lie down instantly, especially our older generation.
I like Alex Linder's patented response: "Sure I'm a racist. I think blacks suck. Doesn't everybody?"

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Like a little girl who runs screaming from the room because someone pointed to the baseboards and shouted "MOUSE"!
That hairless eunuch should have stuck to delivering babies.
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When things go to hell what good will gold and silver be? If you can't buy anything to eat with it, then it's as useless as paper money.
If things get that bad, then even guns and food won't be that important. The first time you fire a shot to protect yourself, the police state will be on top of you in a minute. There go your guns, your food supply and you. Only the politically connected ones like the cops and the government will be safe from any form of prosecution or justice.

Being in a remote location without a large minority population plus the ability to make a living independent of the government would be a great advantage. Not many people fit in this situation.

Since corporate Amerikwa basically has all the jobs, they can starve you to death if you say anything out of line.

Seems incredible hopeless. I keep hoping that one day I’ll wake up one morning and Israel and all their sycophants are blasted off the map. It’s got to happen some day otherwise the world will be run by the most oppressive police state ever. Does America have to go through what the Russians did during the Bolshevik revolution? Sure seems that way.

On the brighter side, I don’t think judeo-Communism will last as long as it did in Russia because after America is destroyed, ain’t nobody going to the aid of Israel and jews. There is not one country in the world that hasn’t been subjected to this malevolent, destructive influence jews have imposed on the world.
 
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