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Old June 23rd, 2009 #21
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Wakena, when did you first become really pro white? How would Buchanan's books have seemed to you a little before or right during that time?
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Old June 24th, 2009 #22
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Sorry Starr, My lover giving me really great sex made me pro white. Buchanan had nothing to do with it, he was a distraction in fact. True.
 
Old June 24th, 2009 #23
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Jews absolutely foam at the mouth with hatred for Pat Buchanan and still this is not an indication to some people that he is doing something right. Oh, yeah, that's right, it is all false opposition.
No, no. Buchanan's for real, dawg. Like, he really means it. Him and his priests and pitchfork bearers are going to make things right like they used to be. I see it coming.

Little Starr-child, let me clue you in. Buchanan has loads of jew friends. His boss and probably 2/3 of his producers are kikes. The people who syndicate his columns are kikes. The people who cut his checks are kikes. But YOU know better right? Yeah, those kikes, gosh darn, they really hate that Buchanan! But you know better than I do who has seen the thing up close. And YOU know better than the jews who employ him, pay him, put him on tv - legitimate him. YOU know best. Because you're an anonymous cat owner with an Internet opinion. You know the truth Starr? You're about 10% brighter than the idiots who think pro wrestling is real. And like Mr. Hand, I'm being generous with the ten percent.

Buchanan is not us. He and his school compete with ours. They are our enemies. You are a stupid, kibitzing spectator who thinks she knows stuff she is utterly clueless about.
 
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Geez, I've just discussed that point about eight hundred times over the last decade. Are you fucking retarded or just yanking my chain?
Did you ever think your anti-social behavior is a detriment to the cause you purport to be fighting for?

How many whites do you drive away from racialism?

You're making a stronger argument against yourself than for yourself.
 
Old June 24th, 2009 #25
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No, no. Buchanan's for real, dawg. Like, he really means it. Him and his priests and pitchfork bearers are going to make things right like they used to be. I see it coming.

Little Starr-child, let me clue you in. Buchanan has loads of jew friends. His boss and probably 2/3 of his producers are kikes. The people who syndicate his columns are kikes. The people who cut his checks are kikes. But YOU know better right? Yeah, those kikes, gosh darn, they really hate that Buchanan! But you know better than I do who has seen the thing up close. And YOU know better than the jews who employ him, pay him, put him on tv - legitimate him. YOU know best. Because you're an anonymous cat owner with an Internet opinion. You know the truth Starr? You're about 10% brighter than the idiots who think pro wrestling is real. And like Mr. Hand, I'm being generous with the ten percent.

Buchanan is not us. He and his school compete with ours. They are our enemies. You are a stupid, kibitzing spectator who thinks she knows stuff she is utterly clueless about.
Starr, like most Boobus Americanii, think that what they see on tv is real. She believes that Pat Buchanan is a real opposition to jewish power. I don't understand the line of reasoning because as you have pointed out many times, Pat is on the dole. That is, he is paid by the very same people he purports to criticize. So that makes him the loyal opposition, not anything real or threatening. Just smoke and mirrors. Kind of like asking a pig if they'd prefer a truck or a train for the trip to the slaughterhouse. The scenery might be different, but the end is still the same.
 
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Steve, I do not believe he, alone is any kind of real threat to jewish power. I, unfortunately do not see any white person, alone, who truly is. What I do believe is that he says some of the things white people need to hear and very potentially gets them thinking about what they need to be thinking about. One example I will give. In his book the Death of the West, he mentions the Frankfurt School and even that they were mostly Jews. That is just one example of many of the very useful things he has been willing to talk about.

One thing I will give you guys, there is a bit of a difference between the Pat on TV and the Pat in his columns and books. It is not a good difference. The Pat on TV is a bit more watered down.
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Polarization.

Radicalization.

Those help us.

More weak, puling, halfway nancies do nothing for us.
Do you really believe David Duke, Mr. "Zero tolerance for violence", is a radical? He's WN Lite. He's the Diet Pepsi of racialism. Not too far removed from Buchanan except that he'll say the "J" word.
 
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David Duke is not the new hardness. I remember losing all respect for him after he supported Nick Griffin's stance of working with the jews. We don't need that. In a perfect world we would be calling Duke on that jew-wash, but Buchnana (the yellow fruit who turns black with a chill) is more to the "left", so to pull things further to the "right" Buchnana first has to fall, then we can hold Duke's and his ilk's feet to the fire.

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Getting rid of Buchanan will have two effects. It will confirm in the fence-sitters' minds that the Jews really do control the media. It will also remove some of the middle ground in the Jew vs. White conflict, leaving the two extremes as choices. When only the extremes are talking, the intensity of the rhetoric is bound to escalate.
 
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Do you really believe David Duke, Mr. "Zero tolerance for violence", is a radical? He's WN Lite. He's the Diet Pepsi of racialism. Not too far removed from Buchanan except that he'll say the "J" word.
I believe Duke is on our side, as he meets my litmus test. He is publicly pro-White and anti-jew.

Personally, I don't like him. He is a sleazy professional politician, which is very clear when you talk to him, altho he is friendly enough, and learned in our thing. But he is a sleazy politician who's on our side. As such he is unique in America.

His tactical mistakes, such as dedicating his book to a kike, are obvious errors. You can't placate jews, or appease them. All history shows that. Still, on the whole, Duke is a positive for our people. By contrast, Buchanan, Francis and every other paleocon was a negative.

And yes, he is wrong to talk down violence. He can emphasize love, for whatever reason, I don't see that as a productive way to go about it, but instead of talking down violence, which is used by the enemy to thwart us, he should say nothing.

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Think of sad fat exploded Canny Sammy. He wouldn't support us, with his valuable position writing editorials for the Washington Times, but we WN were to blame for not supporting him, when he got in trouble. That's what he wrote. This is how career girls think. And I'm the bad guy for pointing out his cowardly hypocrisy. The only thing that Francis will go down in history for is being yet another gutless, large-gutted queer who attempted to have it both ways: to present himself as radical and respectable. You can't be both. You must choose. He chose pie over principle, and reaped his reward.

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One thing I will give you guys, there is a bit of a difference between the Pat on TV and the Pat in his columns and books. It is not a good difference. The Pat on TV is a bit more watered down.
When did it become acceptable to pull punches? When did white men start losing control? When THEY AGREED that there were things they "couldn't" say.

Anonymous fools or trolls like Starr lower the standards for White Nationalists by associating our cause with cowards like Buchanan. We need a higher standard, not a lower. Anyone who doesn't meet the dual litmus test is an enemy. Not a thing in the world is stopping Patrick Catholic Buchanan from using his tv spots to talk about all the men in prison across Europe for criticizing jews. Not a thing is stopping him from mentioning that the Holocaust is a jew-communist Big Lie.

Any white nationalist who makes excuses for Buchanan is either a fool or a troll, but in any case too dim to be of use to our cause.

Cowardice is not acceptable in a white nationalist. Imagine Hitler or Goebbels whimpering that they "can't" tell the truth about the jewish Bolsheviks. It's not even conceivable. Revolutionary politics has nothing to do with Pat Buchanan. He's a chickenshit sellout journalist who always comes crawling back to his boss, cuz that's how Irish Catholic dogmen do it. Whether its writing speech for Israel-saving, affirmative action-institutionalizing Dick Nixon, or going back to the Republican Party after threatening to leave it, Buchanan is a servile cur.

The guy picked a nigger for his presidential running mate. Yet we have dolts on here defending him.

Raise your standards. Don't lower them.

Buchanans are for ignoring, laughing at, using as examples of cowardice, or kicking until they lift their leg, as the jews enjoy making them do. No man would take down his entire forum because someone posted polite, pointed, factually accurate documentation that a historical incident went off differently than the jews claim. No man would do that. Every Buchanan would.

RAISE YOUR STANDARDS, WHITE NATIONALISTS.

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Not that I care if you attack him or not, but other than the racialism aspect, I don't see Pat and David being that different.
Other than balls, a gelding's not that different from a stallion.

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Pat is pro-white in every way that I can tell except he's not explicitly racialist,
Slow your roll, nigger, and just think about how stupid the above statement is.

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and I think that is because of our current state of affairs and wanting to keep his job rather than him being fundamentally anti-white.
So, to you, cowardice is acceptable in your political analyst or representative. Do you feel that way about your doctor, too? Do you go to a doctor who knows the disease you're suffering from, but withholds the diagnosis and cure from you?
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I could see your point to attack him, Alex, if that attack led to something positive. If you could get him fired, is David Duke going to take his place? Is the decline of conservatism related to the rise of white nationalism?
I would think you were baiting me if I didn't know that dimness is about 95% likelier. I just got done writing the answer to that question. Ok, let me give it to you in the simplest words I can, Special Ed.

Yes. The rise of nationalism is almost a mathematical function of the decline of conservatism.

I'll now slightly expand that answer.

Ordinary people, not all that different from you, are not real swift. They can barely distinguish the ground from the sky. Pat Buchanan is enough like us that it confuses people. The same can be said for all conservatives: they favor some of the same things we do (basically, acting normally - respect for the respectable in everyday life), which makes them, the conservatives, a plausible opponent to the weirdos of the left. Do you understand the implications that flow, for our position, from the fact that tens of millions of people believe that by supporting 'the right' they can effect the kind of political change we need to get back to Normal White America? If they think the solution lies within the system, i.e., through supporting one or other of the people/parties they see on tv/in the papers, then why the heck would they ever bother about us? I want you to take ten or fifteen days, however much time you need, to digest this point:

IF BUCHANAN CAN GET THE JOB DONE, WHY THE HECK DOES THE PUBLIC NEED US?


Now, if the public doesn't need Buchanan, because he can't get the job done...then the next epiphany is that Buchanan is an obstacle to the public seeing us, and pondering our case, and realizing that we alone, we White Nationalists, have what is needed to get the job done. Buchanan and his ilk are...in the way. He is on tv and in the papers daily. Our people are not. He's close enough to our position, plausible enough a representative of normal-white interests, that masses of people, dim by nature, tired by overwork, just might be fooled by him. God knows they always have been. And that's how we've ended up where we are. Now, Buchanan has no reason to change: his shtik and spiel have made him rich. WE ARE THE ONES WHO MUST CHANGE. So I don't want to hear any shit about how I'm wrong in attacking little Catholic Patsy. Attacking conservatives as cowards and weaklings is precisely what we need. It is tactically even more important than attacking liberals, because the people we want already hate them, and their power is merely a function of their support for the jews' agenda. We can't polarize the public between Whites and jews until conservatives, the have-it-both-ways people, are roadkilled and dragged off on the shoulder. Only then does the political Chicken, begin...

Knocking Pat off the air is like knocking the flowers off a Pasadena New Year's float. It shows the ugly chicken wire cage of jewish totalitarianism beneath the pretty colors and designs and smiling waving chesties. It reveals to the public what's actually going on: naked jewish tyranny. No one who disagrees with the jews in any way is allowed face or sheet time in AmeriKwa. That awakening is good for our side. It is necessary. Pat Buchanan and other seemingly rational conservative geldings on tv and in the papers hurts our side, because they make it look like the system is open. For the mass of people, none to bright to begin with, and tired from work, can't make out the difference. They don't spend all day on the Internet studying politics. They're working. They need things gross and crude, otherwise they're going to be fooled by polished professionals like Pat. But if he doesn't have the answers we need as a race, then it is in our interest that he be knocked off tv, because he can only mislead people as to the cause of our decline.

I'm pleonasming my ass off, but I really don't think you dimwits won't benefit from overbludgeoning. So just read more and think a little, or wave your feelers, or whatever you do to receive sensory input.

To repeat:

Ordinary dimwits cannot distinguish the White Nationalist position from the conservative position, since our side is kept off tv by the jews.

In order to make our presence known, we have to KNOCK THE CONSERVATIVES OUT OF THE WAY. The fact that they somewhat look like us, and that some of our policies overlap (anti-queer, anti-feminist, pro-borders, etc.) does not mean they are on our side. They are in fact spittingly hostile to us. They call us kooks, loons, crazies, basement dwellers - in short, there is no term of abuse used by the commie-jew-left against us that is not also used by the commie-jew-controlled-right. That ought to be a lesson to you dimwits, but, being tepid namby-pambies like 99% of white males, you just smooth over the differences like a wife who doesn't want to make trouble. We'll find a way to muddle through somehow, just pretend that we all get along, that we're all on the same side. Even though we're not, and it only helps the already rich and cowardly pretenders called conservatives who look down on us and do all they can to destroy our school and reputations to preserve their status as the real outsiders and alternative to the judeo-System. Nah, just pretend. "It's better that way," as the wigger in the Offspring song sings. Better to be a big fat stupid undiscriminating barren pussy like Starr or her cat than to stand up for yourself, your school, your leaders, your principles, your race. If you think Pat Buchanan is a good guy, and helping our cause, you are not a White Nationalist.

White nationalists have nearly as much difficulty as the average joe in understanding what's going on in politics because:

a) they are nearly as dim-witted as pro wrestling fans;

b) they have never seen professional conservatism from the inside, so they think it is something other than "a game; a way of making a living," as Joe Sobran called it.

Wise up, idiots. Pat Buchanan is not interested in standing up for you, he's interested in getting into your wallet. WN Buchanan fans are the exact equivalent of a chick who thinks a guy really likes her when in fact he just wants sex. Pat's interested in you watching him on tv and thinking he stands for the change you want. He isn't, but if he can put on a good enough show to fool you, he's got your money. And he knows you're stupid. He knows, as he would put it, hard-core WN have "nowhere else to go." No one else on tv even pretends to be right wing. That makes him the it girl. And until WN scorn him and demand better, he's right. Again, if you support Buchanan, you are a conservative, not a White nationalist.

Fuck the Kwanservatives, we're the Sex Pistols

What our White Nationalist cause needs to do to succeed is to polarize the nation between jews and White Nationalists. That means, in tardspeak, that the average dolt, let's call him Special Mark, the guy who reads the paper for twenty minutes before dinner, must perceive that there are two competing visions out there, between which he can choose:

1) the judeo-System - the debt-sex-vice-sports-multicult vision

2) the White Nationalist system - a White nation without jews, muds or neo-morals

Polarizing the public between these positions is a tall order. It means destroying the dominant conceptual framework as it exists now: with false option A (liberals/Democrats) and false option B (conservatives/Republicans). Ordinary people cannot make out, without help, that there is not a dime's worth of difference between right and left, they are two puppets pulled over the filthy claws of the eagle-nosed kike who actually runs things and makes all the decisions. It is our job to expose, reveal, destroy. Part of that revelation is beating the living hell out of the conservatives until ordinary people perceive them as the weaklings, laughingstocks, and System tools they are.

In practical terms, polarization entails demonizing and attacking the RIGHT, THE CONSERVATIVES, the PALEOCONSERVATIVES even more than the left-liberal-PC-communists. We should not only attack the fake right, the false opposition, we should attack them with joy and relish. Laughter indicates the laugher is or feels superior to the target. That's exactly the meta-message the winning politician must communicate - that he is stronger than his opponent. That he is the bull goose in the pen. That is a lesson the conservative never understands, which is why he is always fighting uphill. Footnoting is for cowards and folks who don't get it. At best it's fill-in stuff. No footnote ever won a political battle. A political battle is just the human version of that nature channel perennial: the battle between bulls for mating rights. Bluffing is involved, and laughing is essential to bluffing, as ridicule can destroy anything. Anyone preferring reasoned discourse over laughter, if not an actual academic, to whom foonoting is proper, is very likely a coward or a dullard. We beat the jews by laughing at them and fighting them. Laughter is the proper means of verbal warfare. Not "proving" things. Not footnoting. Not remonstrating. Not being polite and respectful. Not playing along with appearances. Not not doubting motives. All those are for weaklings, for losers, for conservatives. We are not they. "I'm not like you [Kwanservative] Charlie Brown [with your fulsome MLKommie praise, your love of diversity, your pathetic and ineffectual puling], I have to win sometimes." We White Nationalists are lions. Well, we're cubs who might become lions if we act right. The conservatives are dung beetles. After the jews have eaten the wildebeest and pooped out the remains, the Pat Buchanans of "It's Pat" fame crinkle by on their six little feet, and roll up the salubrious balls of dung on which they subsist. Do you want to be a lion or a dung beetle, White man?

If you agree there are things a grown man, a political analyst, can't say, you are giving your seal of approval to the cowardice that is putting our race in the ground. You hurt our cause and you are not welcome at VNNForum. White nationalism has a higher standard than you are able to meet.

The conservatives, including Pat Buchanan, must be destroyed, run off, hounded into irrelevancy, so that the people can see that we, not he and his febrile faileocons, are the REAL alternative to the evil jews producing The System Show.

I really have been impressed these last few months at the childlike cluelessness of so many who think they are WN. The typical WN thinks he is displaying his sophistication when he makes excuses for why this or that kahnster dung beetle can't say this or that.

Let me tell you, men of gerbil: You're not sophisticated. You're stupid dupes and dullards. You think Buchanan is really putting one over on the dominant kikes, and you're right. He is putting one over. Not on the kikes. On you.

I have worked in these offices. I have taken the calls from liberal talking head A asking if conservative talkie B wants to go out for drinks after work. These guys are all buddies. They live the good life by putting on a Punch and Judy show for the mass morons like you. Some of the leftists might be honest about what they believe, since they can say EVERYTHING they want, qualified only by tactical advisability. But none of the rightists are anything but tools, except for the jewish neocons, who root and jew about with freedom, as they are kikes. As John Derbyshire at least had the courage to admit, everything he writes is conditioned by his fear of jews. If he displeases them, he has no job. Men who accept employment as political writers/analysts on terms that require them to relinquish their manhood and their independent judgment are unworthy of respect or subsidy. They are, rather, to be despised and spit on as weaklings. If you don't agree with this statement, you are not a white nationalist. You are a conservative. Cowardice at no time in White history has been acceptable in a political leader. That is a horrid and disgusting innovation of the 20th century. Reject it.

Now is the first time in history that White men, almost across the board, willingly agreed to sacrifice their honor and their independence for a paycheck. Pat Buchanan and the rest of the paleocons are house eunuchs waving palm fronds for the Pet pashas who employ them. A white nationalist who praises Pat Buchanan and makes excuses for him is seen by me, and by Pat himself, as a fool. A man with no self respect has no respect for others too stupid to see him for what he is. Pat Buchanan knows how to wink and nod at WN in order to suck our money. And too many of you idiots think he's helping us rather than helping himself by using us.

Pat Buchanan is dangerous to our cause because of his virtues - his learning and his political knowledge. He knows precisely how to affect that he is one of us. He know that hinting that he stands for all that is white and good is the way to fill his coffers. He also knows that that is his role within the jewish system. You have to give a little to get a little, the jewish tyrant knows. Pat is that giving a little. To maintain the fiction of an open system, there have to be at least a few people who appear, and appear plausibly, to oppose the powers that be. Pat Buchanan is precisely that man. As a good little Irish Catholic, PB always runs cringing and whimpering back to Authority, because that is his nature, and that is how he was raised and trained. Religious folks like PB have no problem with shitty, self-interested behavior as long as the dirt is done in private, and the facade kept up in public. The idea of saying the same thing in private as you do in public is foreign to the Christian, as is any ideal of manliness. Christianity is a shabby thing.

The White fool imagines that Buchanan aids our cause. The reality is that our cause aids Buchanan. Buchanan never says a word about White dispossession. He never says a word about jews controlling our government. He openly advised the Republicans to undercut the most successful White political candidate of the last 25 years, David Duke. Buchanan is a team player, and a System dolly all the way to the bank. WN is a cause that he can watch and steal the best arguments from, without crediting the men who thought them up - the revisionists now languishing in jail, for example. That way he can maximize his support base and shine up his radical veneer while staying safe with the jews. Most people, as I started and will end with, can't make out a clever, well written conservative position coming from the pen of someone like Buchanan from a genuine white nationalist position. It is in our interest that we do everything possible to help them, and that surely and necessarily entails attacking and destroying Pat Buchanan. If you don't agree with that position, you are not one of us. You are a conservative. Anything that obscures the difference between White nationalism and conservatism is detrimental to our cause.

Politics is a zero-sum game. Money and time that go to Pat Buchanan and the faileocons are money and attention that do not go to White nationalists. Any so-called WN who praises Buchanan and encourages us to support him is objectively damaging our cause - by aiding men who already possess tremendous material (money and tv access) advantages over us. Not to mention men who, whenver the question is put to them directly, denounce us.

Accept nothing but the real thing, White men.

Raise your standards.

Pat Buchanan is our competitor.

Pat Buchanan is our enemy.

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Buchananism: an elaborate cynical pretense that Jews are ideological opponents, not racial enemies. Buchanan has spent his career opposing communism, liberalism and neoconservatism. Every time Buchanan's side seems to be winning the argument, the Jews just morph into a new ideology as insidious as the last (we may be seeing this presently with J Street, etc.). With Buchananism, we're forever fated to play Wile E. Coyote to the Jews' Road Runner.
 
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Buchananism: an elaborate cynical pretense that Jews are ideological opponents, not racial enemies. Buchanan has spent his career opposing communism, liberalism and neoconservatism. Every time Buchanan's side seems to be winning the argument, the Jews just morph into a new ideology as insidious as the last (we may be seeing this presently with J Street, etc.). With Buchananism, we're forever fated to play Wile E. Coyote to the Jews' Road Runner.
Shazaam! You mean Patty B's not on our side?



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Alex,

this is probably one of the most important threads ever on this forum.

I tended to see it like Starr does -- the idea that "just the fact that someone is saying this stuff out there" was better than nothing for me.

I know you have been repeating yourself time and again. We needed it repeated. It wasn't a waste of time. It has forced me to think more deeply about it, to think about the Buchanan fans out there. They definitely need to get smacked. They need their TV hero taken away from them, so they come looking for the likes of us. He has definitely been a safety valve for White anger.

An analogy of Pat would be carbon monoxide to the lungs. The alveoli in the lungs bind more readily with CO than with O2, and this is why people die from CO poisoning.

Pat Buchanan = Carbon Monoxide or perhaps high fructose corn syrup. You think you're getting the real thing, but you're actually getting a faux substitute that is slowly killing you.

Do you think that, if they fire Pat, there will be a flood of people to the WN movement?
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Of course the entire jew-rotted system has got to go. And of course as long as the likes of Patty is around to snuggle up to and sweet-talk Whites, the system is never going anywhere. So of course out he needs to go. Any dullard can see this.

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What our White Nationalist cause needs to do to succeed is to polarize the nation between jews and White Nationalists.
Now consider this this, Alex. What better way is there to polarize than through economics? Thirteen of the twenty five points of the NSDAP’s program were economic related. Eight of the fifteen policies of the BNP platform are economic related. Grand Apartheid (and Israeli) disenfranchised undesirables through economics.

Economics is how they all polarized themselves from aliens.

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there are two competing visions out there, between which he can choose:

1) the judeo-System - the debt-sex-vice-sports-multicult vision

2) the White Nationalist system - a White nation without jews, muds or neo-morals
Which two are those?

What is the WN system’s alternative economic position?

Attempting to polarize with words and rhetoric barely cuts much ice. People have heard it all before. But polarizing with healthy economic policies is where the rubber meets the road. Give the people a profitable alternative economic system to take part in and then you will get their ears.

Designing and locally implementing that system should be our job.

We have failed.

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we, not he and his febrile faileocons, are the REAL alternative to the evil jews producing The System Show.
The System Show is run with money, and the jew producers own everyone in it – even if it’s just one foot in. How are we ever going to distinguish ourselves from them if our economic policies aren’t radically different from theirs?

Once we start separating our money and economic activity from theirs in earnest, once we start producing our own local show, we become a real alternative, and a real threat (e.g., http://www.norfed.org/). Otherwise we are just annoying empty tin cans whistling in the wind. And remember this; Patty is also paid handsomely to sell, for very good reason, the very life-blood of the jews' system: judeo-capitalism. How many are noticing THAT?

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Alex,

this is probably one of the most important threads ever on this forum.

I tended to see it like Starr does -- the idea that "just the fact that someone is saying this stuff out there" was better than nothing for me.

I know you have been repeating yourself time and again. We needed it repeated. It wasn't a waste of time. It has forced me to think more deeply about it, to think about the Buchanan fans out there. They definitely need to get smacked. They need their TV hero taken away from them, so they come looking for the likes of us. He has definitely been a safety valve for White anger.
It's my fault because I let the art overcome the analysis, out of simple boredom. I should do what people need, as I did above. Make what is obvious to me so clop-cloppy obvious even the spavinedest of dray horses can keep up. Average people need a thing spelled out very simply and clearly, the logic developed step by step, like bricklaying, as Pierce did it. This stuff is just so obvious and old hat to me I have great trouble doing that.

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An analogy of Pat would be carbon monoxide to the lungs. The alveoli in the lungs bind more readily with CO than with O2, and this is why people die from CO poisoning.

Pat Buchanan = Carbon Monoxide or perhaps high fructose corn syrup. You think you're getting the real thing, but you're actually getting a faux substitute that is slowly killing you.
I like it, good analogy.

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Do you think that, if they fire Pat, there will be a flood of people to the WN movement?
No. Nothing would cause that save hyperinflation or widespread rioting, perhaps. The first step, and we really are at the first step, is having people perceive that we are an alternative to the judeo-System, as opposed to the kooks the controlled media, including Buchanans, portrays us. We're essentially but not literally in the getting on the (mental) ballot portion of the contest.

The second step is becoming the #1 contender by defeating the conservtives. That puts us in line for a shot at the champion, the ignoble jew.
 
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Of course the entire jew-rotted system has got to go. And of course as long as the likes of Patty is around to snuggle up to and sweet-talk Whites, the system is never going anywhere. So of course out he needs to go. Any dullard can see this.
I'm glad you agree, but no, not every dullard can see it. Most, in fact, cannot.

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Now consider this this, Alex. What better way is there to polarize than through economics?
Racial politics is better because the jew can't take our side, whereas there are jews taking every side of the economic wars. But, you are definitely correct that, let's say, White Money or White Economics is something we have utterly failed to develop as an effective theme and bolster of our total racial case.
 
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Which two are those?
Those are the two competing visions we want left in the field. Visions we can divide and fight over, knowing the vast mass of White Americans will take our side. And unlike the cowards called conservatives, we fight under our real banner - the White race.

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What is the WN systemís alternative economic position?
Monetary honesty, however that is arrived at. No power can be allowed to inflate the currency, because that man owns all political by virtue of his ability to do so. That is, hard money. Money tied to gold, I would say. Some disagree, but money tied to labor can easily translate into slavery. This conception goes hand in hand with a monofunctional national government. The smaller the government, the smaller its tax on the people, the smaller the stakes for gamers and cheaters.

So essentially, our party plank is that we will not covertly tax whites via printing money (inflation). We will also advise and advocate anti-materialist spiritual revolution, reducing materialism and encouraging savings. We are for work. We are for savings. We are for White men, and that means running their own lives and NOT needing gigantic tax-sucking, currency-inflating big government.

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Attempting to polarize with words and rhetoric barely cuts much ice.
Pardon me for laughing. There is no other way to do it, and it works quite well. Have you noticed how the polarization of haters/diversity-lovers has served the jews quite well? Verbal division is everything in politics, provided it is backed by guns and tv satellites.

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People have heard it all before.
No, they have only heard the judeo-liberal side. Even the conservative toe that line. That's how the system works. The real thing, the things that would be best for the whites who underwrite the system, are smeared as hate and kept off the airwaves.

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But polarizing with healthy economic policies is where the rubber meets the road. Give the people a profitable alternative economic system to take part in and then you will get their ears.
You won't get their ears unless the system is breaking down. That appears to be happening to an extent, but we're nowhere near Weimar yet.

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Designing and locally implementing that system should be our job.

We have failed.
Well, the whole nature of that is that it is one of those rare things that is not a local thing but a national thing. I know what you mean, but those who have tried, I posted a story the other day, get their ass kicked by the feds. Doing it in theory is great and not a problem; doing it in reality attracts the wrong attention. And the stuff you can get away with is nice, but too small scale for the big changes we need. The best thing we can do now is save our money, get rich, find others who think the way we do. And garden and all those other things Kievsky is talking about. For serious monetary reform, we need a party line, but we can't do anything until the system breaks down. Ron Paul has got the farthest on this line, and should be studied, even though he's not one of us. But even if he got the fed audited or even shut down, the likeliest bet is that the kikes would simply create a new institution doing the same thing. The problem is racial, ultimately, not financial. White men running a White country is no guarantee they won't go for the same shenanigans they have before, but there's a better chance they can be reined in or rein themselves in than the jews will. They'll just cheat us as they always have.

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The System Show is run with money, and the jew producers own everyone in it Ė even if itís just one foot in. How are we ever going to distinguish ourselves from them if our economic policies arenít radically different from theirs?
It's one aspect of our differentiation. But like I said, the hard thing is not differentiating ourselves, it's creating a space for the public even to know that we exist. Money's not a real difficult subject: the people need to know that we will not steal their earnings and savings through inflation or high taxes. That's it.

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Once we start separating our money and economic activity from theirs in earnest, once we start producing our own local show, we become a real alternative, and a real threat (e.g., http://www.norfed.org/). Otherwise we are just annoying empty tin cans whistling in the wind. And remember this; Patty is also paid handsomely to sell, for very good reason, the very life-blood of the jews' system: judeo-capitalism. How many are noticing THAT?
I won't get into capitalism as it means nothing anymore, like socialism. You can try to demonstrate whatever you want, but if it involves hard money, you will eventually be brought down, that has been demonstrated by the Liberty Dollar people and the guy who made a private gold-for-money bank in a couple states.

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P.S. Please feel free to edit my username to The Irishman. I admit I donít know how!
You can't, only admins can change that stuff.
 
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